Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 00:34:31 -0700 From: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> To: David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com>, Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, Matthieu Volat <mazhe@alkumuna.eu> Subject: Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg Message-ID: <a8a151c8-9f44-f057-4d16-675924229cbe@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <CAO%2BPfDfLtw6OjPvrMC5hzfEL1CH7wyLZ0=RQstqZrRmOmk5pxA@mail.gmail.com> References: <638fe078-80db-2492-90be-f1280eb8d445@freebsd.org> <20161012092403.66a41d9e@freedom.alkumuna.eu> <00f3768e-f57a-661c-aa62-89cdf10926bd@netfence.it> <CAO%2BPfDfLtw6OjPvrMC5hzfEL1CH7wyLZ0=RQstqZrRmOmk5pxA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 13/10/2016 5:42 AM, David Demelier wrote: > 2016-10-12 10:04 GMT+02:00 Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it>: >> On 10/12/16 09:24, Matthieu Volat wrote: >> >>> And GNU/Linuxes can be a PITA when you have to track -dev(el) packages >>> (which sometimes really requires -bin, -app or whatever), or worst, describe >>> to people how they are supposed to build your software with weird subpackage >>> names. >>> >>> I really like that ports provides the software project as intended by >>> upstream (modulo options). >> >> Just a "me too" here! > Could not agree more. > > Please forget that idea. > > I just hate having to install libfoo, libfoo-dev, libfoo-dbg, > libfoo-doc, libfoo-whatever each time I need to develop on Linux. > Please do not transform FreeBSD as a Linux distribution :) > > I love the way FreeBSD and some very sparse Linux distributions > provide the packages exactly how it would be installed by hand (= > vanilla). > > FreeBSD offers some options and very few changes for better > integration but packages are provided vanilla. You want a package? You > install /packagename/ nothing more, nothing less. I really would like > to see simple vanilla packages for the next 10 years. > > The FreeBSD ports is already extremely complicated, do not make it > even harder :( The suggestion is not for ports, but for packages.. a single package could be unpacked in 'runtime only' or 'everything' mode. basically one package, two manifests. So no "foo-devel" or "foo-runtime" just 'foo' > > Regards, >
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