Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 22:35:02 -0600 (CST) From: Ted Hatfield <ted@io-tx.com> To: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> Cc: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>, Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh <sunpoet@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> Subject: Re: Procmail got updated! Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1712202225390.33354@io-tx.com> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1sFRP--bLFApQZHqqPpJOiQN%2B%2Bn74Jh0jk7vozYqUKadA@mail.gmail.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.21.1712181012470.92288@aneurin.horsfall.org> <a3a1097d-22c7-89cc-dd69-b4ceeebf7228@gmx.de> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1712181824220.10261@io-tx.com> <f68594db-396b-0821-e90d-3f089781e8fd@gmx.de> <5A39F7C9.1030800@grosbein.net> <05504d3c-3225-e83f-8f10-225319421a35@gmx.de> <CAN6yY1sFRP--bLFApQZHqqPpJOiQN%2B%2Bn74Jh0jk7vozYqUKadA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> > wrote: > >> Am 20.12.2017 um 06:40 schrieb Eugene Grosbein: >>> On 20.12.2017 01:03, Matthias Andree wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Ted, Eugene, >>> [skip] >>> >>> What happened with old good "Tools, not policy" thing? >>> >>> >> >> It's simpler than that, no policy involved. >> >> The tool had a hollow head, and broke after several years of banging it, >> and the former tool maker told the public it's out of warranty (never >> was in due to it being free) and not being fixed any more, and should be >> scrapped. >> > > It still works (painfully) and is used by many. They would be wise to > stop, but it is not the job of the project to force them to do so, > > I do think that a pkg-message with "Here there be dragons! Proceed at your > own risk. dropmail is a MUCH safer (and easier) path." would be > appropriate. I don't think it is the job of the project to force people to > replace it if they think they know what they are doing. Of course, bitrot > or similar may take it before long. > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 I still use sendmail/procmail for all of my systems. If it's up to a vote I would vote to keep procmail as a valid port. That being said I am not a port maintainer and I wouldn't presume to tell them what to maintain as I am not the one doing the actual work. However based upon my experience I am betting that there are a lot of systems still out there that are still using procmail. I think if you choose to drop support for procmail you should do as Kevin suggests and give a warning and a firm date when support will stop. This will give people a chance to update their systems appropriately. Ted Hatfield
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