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Date:      Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:10:44 +0200 (CEST)
From:      "=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Luk=E1=A8_Czerner?=" <czerner.lukas@gmail.com>
To:        Gleb Kurtsou <gleb.kurtsou@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Luk=E1=A8_Czerner?= <czerner.lukas@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: How to change vnode operations ?
Message-ID:  <alpine.DEB.1.10.1004230756190.7101@a04-0215a.kn.vutbr.cz>
In-Reply-To: <20100422191849.GA9895@tops>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Gleb Kurtsou wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:18:49 +0300
> From: Gleb Kurtsou <gleb.kurtsou@gmail.com>
> To: Lukáš Czerner <czerner.lukas@gmail.com>
> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: How to change vnode operations ?
> 
> On (22/04/2010 16:02), Lukáš Czerner wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > this may sound a little odd, since I have noticed that there is much
> > work done to not allow such a thing ($SUBJ). But may be you can help
> > me and point me to the right direction.
> > 
> > I am writing a kernel module with somewhat similar functionality
> > like nullfs has, BUT it has to have some features which nullfs
> > itself does not provide :
> > 
> >  1. I need the new layer to completely hide underlaying layer so no
> >     one can bypass it.
> Is hypothetic 'mount -t mynullfs /a /a' good enough for you? I'm not sure
> what your goals are but completely finding underlaying filesystem won't
> be easy because of VFS_GET, getfh and other stuff operating with inode
> numbers.

Well, it may be good enough, or not. Thats what I am trying to find
out. Obviously there are problems, as you mentioned, which will not
exist when I change the vop_vector of the vnode, but as I thought
and you mentioned it as well, this is not very clean way.

> 
> >  2. Nullfs allows me to to overlay just one directory, but i want to
> >     include another directories and/or exclude subdirectories/files.
> >  3. Nullfs just redirects vnode operations to lower layer, I need to
> >     catch that operation, do something (for example alter the arguments
> >     somehow etc..), pass the operation (with possibly altered arguments)
> >     to the lower layer, get the result and then return the result.
> I'd suggest to take a look at pefs: http://github.com/glk/pefs
> It's cryptographic stacked filesystem for FreeBSD. It changes file
> names, hides directory entries, modifies data from lower layer
> (encrypts or decrypts), supports mounting on same directory, etc.

Thats great, thanks! I will look at it.

> 
> > The best way to do that (I think) is to change vnode operations of
> > particular vnodes to point to functions defined in that module. At
> > this point, I can catch any operations with the vnode and this is
> > the base of what i want.
> > 
> > So my question is. I there any "clean" way to chande vnode
> > operations ? If not, is there any "not so clean" way ? Anyway I will
> > appreciate any good idea how to do what I have described.
> Imho, stacked filesystem is the only right way to do it (see null,
> unionfs, pefs).

OK. Thanks for pointing me to the pefs, it is interesting and looks
like a good start. But I would appreciate more comment on the side
of the whole idea about changing vnode operations from the kernel
module. It is a little hacky, but aside this I do not see any bigger
problems, do you ?


Thanks.
-Lukas
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