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Date:      Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:42:32 -0400
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Periodic rant about SCHED_ULE
Message-ID:  <b29444be-1146-185b-d4cc-d422f9bcdd8c@denninger.net>
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On 3/22/2023 13:37, George Mitchell wrote:
> On 3/22/23 13:10, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>> [...]
>> I dont even try ULE any more.  I just used 4BSD, as did bde@freebsd.org,
>> ULE seems to suck when your have interactive use and compute bound on
>> the same  box.  I have seen interactive in the past take seconds to
>> echo a command.  IIRC ULE and zfs in a memory contrained environment
>> dont play nicely togeather either.
>>
>> +1 on the return to 4BSD as the default scheduler
>>
> Thanks for the support and confirming I am not crazy!          -- George
>
Am I correct that toggling between these without a kernel build (or even 
at runtime) is not possible?  Been a minute since I've cared.... :-)

-- 
Karl Denninger
karl@denninger.net
/The Market Ticker/
/[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/22/2023 13:37, George Mitchell
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:27f46bc2-54f8-f5aa-79ca-184e86d185d8@m5p.com">On 3/22/23
      13:10, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">[...]
        <br>
        I dont even try ULE any more.  I just used 4BSD, as did
        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bde@freebsd.org">bde@freebsd.org</a>,
        <br>
        ULE seems to suck when your have interactive use and compute
        bound on
        <br>
        the same  box.  I have seen interactive in the past take seconds
        to
        <br>
        echo a command.  IIRC ULE and zfs in a memory contrained
        environment
        <br>
        dont play nicely togeather either.
        <br>
        <br>
        +1 on the return to 4BSD as the default scheduler
        <br>
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      Thanks for the support and confirming I am not crazy!          --
      George
      <br>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Am I correct that toggling between these without a kernel build
      (or even at runtime) is not possible?  Been a minute since I've
      cared.... :-)<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
      Karl Denninger<br>
      <a href="mailto:karl@denninger.net" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">karl@denninger.net</a><br>
      <i>The Market Ticker</i><br>
      <font size="-2"><i>[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]</i></font></div>
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