Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:16:58 -0500 From: Dennis Clarke <dclarke@blastwave.org> To: Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: poudriere and the user ... is it mostly a lost idea? Message-ID: <befa59eb-b458-48c4-91f4-af326095557e@blastwave.org>
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All :
Over the past month or so I see endless fails in builds for the big
three user facing window manager things. This means that a simple user
type person can not get a desktop. Really? Yes really. For at least a
month or more you can not build KDE5 nor LXDE nor XFCE desktop. With
FreeBSD there is a trivial idea that it exists in source form and one
can compile *anything* needed. Am I wrong here?
So correct me, with a taser to the left, gently, if I am wrong.
Sure, a user can just use whatever packages are being provided by some
magic server somewhere in a fluffy cloud with coloured unicorns that
dance on the rainbows.
Failed: ??
Poudriere lately always says fail.
Every day.
Every time. For the last month or more and I suspect more if I drag the
logs out. I do not want to do that. I just am curious and perhaps misled
with a silly notion that FreeBSD can be used by, you know, a user. This
is not ubuntu and I am so thankful for that. This is not IBM or Red Fat.
Why do I always see things like this :
Queued: 31 Built: 21 Failed: 1 Skipped: 9 Ignored: 0 Fetched: 0
Tobuild: 0 Time: 00:09:43
Every day. Over and over. For 14.2 and 13.4 and even 15.0 ? Every day.
[142amd64-latest] [2025-01-15_15h06m30s] [parallel_build] Queued: 315
Built: 20 Failed: 0 Skipped: 0 Ignored: 0 Fetched: 0 Tobuild:
295 Time: 00:03:39
It will fail. For 2025Q1 or 2024Q4 or whatever is "latest". Fail.
So I am happy to kick this hornets nest. Let the flames begin. Fine.
The whole desktop user experience is broken and has been for a long
time. I have the logs. I see the fails. Over and over.
For a long time now.
So then, do I labour under the false assumption that FreeBSD can be,
you know, used? By a ... you know ... a human type? Am I lost here ?
If the power to serve is just a backend server. Then fine. State that
up front and lets drop the whole user stuff into a deep oubliette.
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Dennis Clarke
RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC
UNIX and Linux spoken
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