Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:23:12 -0400 From: Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov@mail.lifanov.com> To: Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help me understand latest->quarterly pkg.conf switch Message-ID: <c917b02df691cbae6017f664443247e5@mail.lifanov.com> In-Reply-To: <20150724212757.GE84931@FreeBSD.org> References: <a690b368e20f20ae3901236eef0ff254@mail.lifanov.com> <20150724212757.GE84931@FreeBSD.org>
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On 2015-07-24 17:27, Glen Barber wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 05:15:52PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote:
>> I noticed that in stable/10, /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf was switched from
>> using
>> latest package set to whichever one that is "quarterly" word is
>> pointing to
>> at the moment. What is the motivation for this change?
>>
>
> This was not done in the stable/10 branch, it was done in releng/10.2.
>
>> Quarterly package sets are useful if the end-user is able to pick
>> which one
>> to pull from and there is some amount of time of support overlap so
>> that the
>> user has time to validate the new package set and switch his systems
>> to it
>> (like what is done with pkgsrc). As-is, "quarterly" works just like
>> "latest"
>> from end-user perspective, but for most of the lifecycle packages are
>> outdated and there is a massive update bomb four times per year.
>>
>> Port branches are still valuable to those building their own packages,
>> since
>> they can support the previous (unsupported by the project) branch,
>> backporting fixes manually, while validating and upgrading to the new
>> one.
>> But, what is the value of the quarterly package set as-is and what is
>> the
>> value of switching to this set by default?
>>
>
> In general, the quarterly package set is less prone to having build
> failures, since the changes in the branch are (by intent) less
> intrusive, while still receiving security updates. It is analogous to
> the stable or releng branches in src, and how they compare to head.
>
> (This will be noted in the final 10.2-RELEASE announcement, as well as
> the release notes, and will also include instructions on how to switch
> to the 'latest' branch if that is what is desired.)
>
> Glen
Cool, thanks for the explanation!
What would be really amazing to see are quarterly branches that the end
user can switch between, like pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/2015Q3 ->
pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/2015Q4 when he is ready, with at least a little
bit of overlap.
Thanks Glen!
- Nikolai Lifanov
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