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Date:      Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:21:17 +0000
From:      Arthur Chance <freebsd@qeng-ho.org>
To:        Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in>, William Dudley <wfdudley@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: how do I get STARTTLS working with sendmail on FreeBSD 10.3 ?
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On 23/03/2017 03:25, Jim Ohlstein wrote:
> Your entire question is ridiculous since Sendmail will never be
> useful for retrieving email from a remote server. Ever. To do that
> you need a POP/IMAP server. That was my point. Still is.

If you'd been paying attention you'd have noticed lines in his mail like

> telnet localhost 25

which is rather a clue that he's talking about the sending side rather
than the receiving side.

> I only suggested you consider another agent since this one is
> proving difficult for you to configure. I never said you "had to" do
> anything, but you will need more than Sendmail to use your phone's
> email client.

I'm sure he's aware of this, but is having problems *sending* mail
securely via SMTP and sendmail.

> But keep going, you're doing great. 

Quite possibly a little better than some other people.

[Much snippage]

>>> "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain

[Except for that. :-)]


-- 
By June 1949, people had begun to realize that it was not so easy to
get a program right as had at one time appeared. It was on one of my
journeys between the EDSAC room and the punching equipment that the
realization came over me with full force that a good part of the
remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own
programs.

	-- Maurice Wilkes



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