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Date:      Thu, 11 Jun 2020 15:22:06 +0300
From:      Yuri Pankov <yuripv@yuripv.dev>
To:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: freebsd vs. netbsd
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Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:03 AM Yuri Pankov <yuripv@yuripv.dev> wrote:
> 
>> Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 06:49:47 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>>>> As to the comment of how common top posting is or not almost every web
>>>> based MUA defaults to it
>>>
>>> Could you mention a few FLOSS BSD or Linux MUAs that by default sets
>>> the cursor above the quoted text?
>>
>> FWIW, Thunderbird does that by default in new accounts, you have to
>> configure it to do otherwise.
>>
> 
> So does every other GUI/web MUA.   I don't know why it is so hard for the
> FreeBSD community to get that conventions have changed (for better or worse
> I don't know but they have).  I have even had people complain about not
> top-posting because "I can't find your reply" and thus almost the entire
> world (except for a few technical mailing lists) either accepts or
> encourages top-posting.
> 
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15648928
> https://www.quora.com/Why-do-the-masses-utilize-the-top-posting-style-in-email-replies
> https://www.jefftk.com/p/abandoning-bottom-posting

I was just providing an example of (bad) defaults (it also encourages 
new users to use HTML) in Thunderbird.

WRT top-posting, I strongly disagree with this, having $work use Outlook 
almost exclusively and getting really hard times finding who answers 
what in *technical* discussions with more than 2-3 replies -- I'm 
spending A LOT more time than needed on this.  I would agree on using 
top-posting when you are sending some request and have your manager 
reply with "Approved" on top, that's the only situation I can think of 
when it's acceptable.



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