Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:29:21 -0500 From: Don Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Subject: Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD Message-ID: <eefa2c8b0909281129y53353e71t9c216dab6039cc8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <861vlr3pno.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <eefa2c8b0909280908n4a8a8adch4a5400d555db356a@mail.gmail.com> <200909281709.n8SH8xsG070888@fire.js.berklix.net> <eefa2c8b0909281016vca9f9fu5f44cedd098b6304@mail.gmail.com> <861vlr3pno.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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Dag-Erling, I remember you quite well as a core developer, so I don't doubt that your knowledge of history is better than mine. Thank you both for the corrections. AFA pitchers of beer, it was meant as a friendly dig on an insider's list and not meant as disrespect for Kirk's achievements, which have far more to do with all of us being here today than I do. :D 2009/9/28 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav <des@des.no>: > Don Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com> writes: >> What is incorrect, Julian? > > Pretty much everything about the lawsuit. > > http://oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/kirkmck.html > http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/USLsettlement.pdf > > I found the phrase "everything developed before 1970" particularly > amusing, as it translates to approximately zero, plus or minus zero. > > Oh, and pretty much everything else as well. > > The practice of sharing source code without compensation (and the term > "copyleft") can be traced to a hobbyist magazine that later developed > into Dr Dobb's, and predates 3BSD (1BSD and 2BSD were only add-ons, not > OS distributions) by about five years. =A0The first explicit discussion o= f > free software as such was in an article published in the July 1976 issue > of SIGPLAN in reaction to Bill Gate's (in)famous "open letter". =A0The > first organized F/OSS movement was, like it or not, the GNU Project > started by Richard Stallman in 1983. =A0At that time, BSD was distributed > only to institutions that already held an AT&T source code license. =A0Th= e > network stack was "open sourced" in the late eighties, the rest of the > system in the early-to-mid nineties. > >> He was drinking beer by the pitcher, so I'm sure he was more >> forthcoming than usual. > > I neither know nor care whether that statement is true, but it's not a > particularly nice thing to say about anyone. > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no > --=20 -- Don Wilde " Engineering the Future " http://www.EngineeringJobFuture.com
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