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Date:      Sun,  7 Jan 1996 03:08:51 +0300 (MSK)
From:      =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <kaleb@x.org>
Cc:        hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Demand loading (Re: FreeBSD, Zappa & PCI)
Message-ID:  <iCJymxmOH1@ache.dialup.ru>
In-Reply-To: <199601062312.XAA18349@exalt.x.org>; from "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" at Sat, 06 Jan 1996 18:12:40 EDT
References:  <199601062312.XAA18349@exalt.x.org>

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In message <199601062312.XAA18349@exalt.x.org> Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
    writes:

>I did however sense another episode of "we, the hackers, will decide 
>what's good for the masses." I got it from Andre about a cleaner 8-bit 
>clean libc, I got it from Poul when I wanted agressive sbrking memory 
>back to the OS, and Joerg about the usefulness of ld.so.cache. Three 
>times I've said "it would be better if..." Three times I've had someone 
>from -hackers come back with "no, you don't want that". Well, yes, I do 
>want those things, to the extent that they don't break standards
>conformance. (See, I did compromise on the 8-bit clean libc stuff. Did
>I get the rest of what I wanted though?) Is it not surprising that I
>think I see a pattern emerging?

Speaking about me, as you can notice _all_ your proposed
localization changes commited into -current as result of some
kinda discussion happens. Speaking about Poul I saw his commit
of your proposed malloc change even without any discussion.

So, I don't understand, what makes your
uncomfortable here. Do you mean that customer demands must be
accepted immediately even without comparation with global project
strategy? Even they are accepted it not generally means
that someone from the FreeBSD team forced to work on them...
(well, nobody pay me for localization f.e. :-)

-- 
Andrey A. Chernov        : And I rest so composedly,  /Now, in my bed,
ache@astral.msk.su       : That any beholder  /Might fancy me dead -
http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me,  /Thinking me dead.
RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team :         E.A.Poe         From "For Annie" 1849



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