Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 03:56:20 -0500 From: "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net> To: vova@fbsd.ru Cc: gnome <freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Is GNOME 2.7/2.8 stable to you? Message-ID: <opseewf6h49aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com> In-Reply-To: <1095321706.62780.27.camel@localhost> References: <opseaqp2nq9aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com> <1095151081.986.23.camel@localhost> <41471643.4000605@marcuscom.com> <1095244328.1246.21.camel@localhost> <opsedrs80j9aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com> <1095321706.62780.27.camel@localhost>
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:01:46 +0400, Vladimir Grebenschikov <vova@fbsd.ru> wrote: > В ср, 15/09/2004 в 13:18 -0500, Jeremy Messenger пишет: >> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:32:08 +0400, Vladimir Grebenschikov >> <vova@fbsd.ru> >> wrote: > >> >> I relied to say that this most likely points to a need to upgrade >> >> libgda2 and libgnomedb. Did you do that? >> > >> > >> > Yes, it does not help. >> >> Did you read my reply with link? > > Yes, they suggest to ignore message - not looks good, I have remove > plug-in and it helps, but see below Maybe, I can disable the 'unstable' plugins by default until someone wants to enable it with some knobs. >> > Also gnumeric complains on start to stderr: >> > >> > env LANG=C gnumeric >> > /home/vova/.gtkrc-2.0:2: Unable to find include file: ".gtkrc-2.0- >> > scrollbar_cog" >> > (gnumeric:65048): GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING **: iconv does not >> > support ppd character encoding: ISOLatin1, trying CSISOLatin1 >> > ** (gnumeric:65048): WARNING **: Could not find child for option >> > "PhysicalSize" with id "A4" >> > ** (gnumeric:65048): WARNING **: Could not find child for option >> > "PhysicalSize" with id "Letter" >> > ** (gnumeric:65048): WARNING **: Could not find child for option >> > "PhysicalSize" with id "A4" >> > ** (gnumeric:65048): WARNING **: Could not set value of "PhysicalSize" >> > to "A4" >> > ** (gnumeric:65048): WARNING **: Could not find child for option >> > "PhysicalSize" with id "Letter" >> > ** (gnumeric:65048): WARNING **: Could not find child for option >> > "PhysicalSize" with id "A4" >> > ** (gnumeric:65048): WARNING **: Could not find child for option >> > "PhysicalSize" with id "A4" >> > >> > >> > May be I should reset some configuration files ? >> >> I can't reproduce this. At the every release of GNOME, I always reset >> all >> configuration files by 'rm -rf' the GNOME's .* and even in /var/tmp to >> get >> the better stability. > > opps, forcing users (not developers) to reset all configuration not > good, I think it need to test upgrade too ... Be sure to complain it to the GNOME developers; not to us. :-) I am not sure about 2.6 -> 2.8 thought, I think gconf might be only thing that need to reset. > turning off cups removes all these messages and make start of gumeric > much faster (looks like gnumeric tries to connect all configured cups > printers - seems strange) From what I noticed that you are having some problem with the printer in two apps (gnumeric and evolution) right? But, they behave different. > But, after some rebuilds it refused to start at all under normal user - > it crashed Even crash on a 'dummy' user with no configuration files? How did you rebuilt it? > Backtrace was generated from '/usr/X11R6/bin/gnumeric' > Gnome bug-buddy collected some stacktraces, but they not seems usable: <snip> Try to do it in gdb instead bug-buddy. Current, I am rebuilding all apps again because I forgot to enable the debug, so I can get the better backtraces if I can get it crash. I know, I am not helping that much because I just still can't reproduce it while I don't have any printer here. > But again, starting gnumeric under root user works - Ok. > Also, under root there is no popup about gnome-db plug-in. > >> >> d here/, >> >> | System -> New Session does not work - it make screen white and >> all >> >> | If I do Ctrl-Alt-F1 then back - old sessi >> >> >> >> This should be fixed in the latest version. >> > >> > No, this is not fixed on latest gnome. But I can start second Xserver >> > manually >> > sudo X :1 >> >> I don't understand what you are trying to do with the new session? Care >> to >> explain more, so I can try to reproduce it? The 'doesn't work' will not >> help us to figure what problem you are having. > > I've figured out what happens myself, I have add "vt12" to "Standard > Server" definition in gdm.conf. So flex-server tried to start second X > server on same vt and this gives unexpected result instead of simple > error. > > Another issue I have found, with this gdm configuration: > > [servers] > 0=Standard > > Also I have found following bug (or feature): > # Definition of the standard X server. > [server-Standard] > name=Flex server > command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 vt12 > flexible=false > > # Definition of the standard X server for flex > [server-Flex] > name=Flex server > command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 > flexible=true > > On gdmflexiserver it suggest to choose one of X servers for flex: > Standard and Flex, looks like bug in gdmflex logic: it is not possible > to disable flexing on standard server. > > Finally this configuration looks Ok for me: I think, it's good idea for you to report to the developers (in their bugzilla) if you haven't done yet. > [servers] > 0=Parked > > # Definition of the standard X server. (only for flex) > [server-Standard] > name=Flex server > command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 > flexible=true > > # Definition of the standard X server parked on vt12 console (main) > [server-Parked] > name=Parked server > command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 vt12 > flexible=false > > >> > Another issue notification-area applet still can be started after it's >> > children. I was forced to fix this by adding sleep() into simicq >> binary >> > to wait while notification-area applet starts. >> > >> > Is any plans to make this in sync ? >> >> I don't notice any issue with notification-area such as gaim, gdesklets >> and few other apps. Perhaps, need to explain more? > > Ok, see marcus@ replay on my previous post about in attachment. (with > gnome bugzilla link, open bug) > Actually now I have much faster notebook and problem with simicq still > exists. Thanks, at least this problem isn't only on FreeBSD. >> > My upgrade procedure failed on building mjpegtools: >> >> mjeptools is not maintain by GNOME, but I shall help. I don't have any >> problem to install it, see here: >> >> ======================================== >> # ls -l /var/db/pkg | grep mjp >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 15 12:58 mjpegtools-1.6.2_2/ >> ======================================== >> >> It looks like you have FreeBSD 5.x, so the devel/libgnugeopt conflicts >> with getopt in base system. Uninstall libgnugeopt and try mjeptools >> again. > > I have current, but uninstalling libgnugetopts helps. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD vbook.fbsd.ru 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #4: Fri Sep 3 > 11:36:31 MSD 2004 root@vbook.fbsd.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VBOOK i386 > > Actually I need libgnugetopts for other project, can this conflict be > eliminated ? I really have no idea what's solution for this, which I never follow up on that kind of topic. Try to search in the mailing list archives or google for some clues. Cheers, Mezz >> Cheers, >> Mezz >> >> > #portupgrade -f -r pkgconfig >> > .... <snip> >> > >> > >> > >> >> Joe -- mezz7 at cox.net - mezz at FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome at FreeBSD.org
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