Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:39:49 -0400 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: dillon@earth.backplane.com, mhagerty@voyager.net Subject: Re: Article: Network performance by OS Message-ID: <p05100e03b7517ec6dacf@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <200106162031.f5GKVfm16209@saturn.cs.uml.edu> References: <200106162031.f5GKVfm16209@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
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At 4:31 PM -0400 6/16/01, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: >Feel free to post a benchmarking procedure that would let one >person produce fair results. Results ought to be reproducable: >you, I, and an NT kernel developer all get the same answers. Nice ideal. Hard to imagine it happening any time soon. All of these OS's have their tricks when installing, and the person who "knows" the OS thinks nothing of those "simple" tuning issues. The person who doesn't "know" the OS wouldn't have a clue about the tuning. I have the feeling that this thread isn't going to generate much useful info, if the debate is going to include quasi- trolls like that. Mind you, I do agree that it would be very nice if we ["the industry"] could figure out benchmarking tactics which did not depend on the knowledge level of the person doing the benchmark. It would also be really nice to see lasting peace in every corner of the globe, but that also isn't going to happen without divine intervention. Getting back to benchmarks, the problem is that as soon as someone designs a benchmark, some members of the competition (the "competition" in whatever field is being benchmarked) sits down and figures out how to "look good on that benchmark". >So every FreeBSD server requires an expensive admin to tune it? >That Win2K solution is looking good now. :-) We have windows servers here at RPI. They require expensive admins too. We're putting up an exchange server right now, and it's requiring more time, effort and resources to set up correctly than just about anything we've ever put up in Unix-land - even though some of our recent hires include good people who have a lot of experience with Windows (and almost none with Unix...). I am sure that for SOME companies in SOME environments, Win2K is setup "right for them" right out of the box. However, that does not hold true for all companies, all environments, or all usage-patterns. It just does not universally apply. Again, this seems more like a troll than any serious or even realistic discussion of the issues. My guess is that nothing much good is going to come from this thread, at the rate it's going. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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