Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 02:30:46 +0800 (SGT) From: sweeting@tm.net.my To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing lists archives Message-ID: <v01540b06af65d123f6bd@[202.184.153.110]>
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I have noticed that the freebsd-questions list is incredibly heavy. The previous emails in this thread are on the ball, I believe. Recently I have also joined the OSF-mangaers list. (Digital Unix) which has an incredible system, described at : http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/mailing-lists/Alpha-OSF-Managers/info.html But the main thing about it is this : [quote] 4.This list is intended to be a quick-turnaround troubleshooting aid for those who administer and manage Alpha AXP systems runnning Digital UNIX (formerly OSF/1). Its primary purpose is to provide the Alpha manager with a quick source of information for time-critical system management problems. 5.Answers to questions are to be mailed back to the questioner and are not to be sent to the entire list. The person who originally asked the question has the responsibility of summarizing the answers and sending the entire summary back to the list. When a summary is sent back to the list, it should contain the word "SUMMARY" as the first word of the "Subject" line. [quote] This system works ! 1. It reduces traffic, much of which will only be relevant to the original sender. 2. The summaries provide excellent "lessons" from which to learn. 3. Writing summaries means that you really have to find a solution and demonstrate that you have learned (oops, bit like school again) 4. Checking the archives search engine is a lot easier. Probably as a result of this, the turn around time on the OSF-managers list is the fastest that I have ever seen. I don't know if this would be appropiate for the FBSD list but I do fear that I will have to unsubscribe again shortly and will probably miss some useful information..... due to traffic. That said, the support for FBSD rocks. This list is one of the best I have ever seen. just my 2 cents chas >> On the other hand, this particular question has been asked 3 - 5 times >> every week for nearly three months now. Having personally answered it >> a number of times, it is really starting to get redundant. I know that >> many of the people picking up FreeBSD these days are new to the net as >> well as UNIX, but it really is quite disturbing to see the social >> structure that used to be so much a part of internet communications >> breaking down so rapidly. > As a someone new to UNIX and relatively new to the internet I >would like to inform you about what steps I took before posing the same >question that annoys thee so much. > >-- First I went to the Handbook which I downloaded then updated to find >out that I was suppose to enter the tun0 device into my /etc/sysconfig >file. Even in the most recent version this still is one of the steps that >you are instructed to take. > >-- Second go to the mail archives ( you must do this with dos at this >point because, ... well ...) and you search the archives. For me, this did >not help at the time I was doing my settup. > >-- Third you search through the the world wide web to see if any ISP's >have instructions to scripting for PPP in FreeBSD. ATT was one of the >results which again instructs you to configure your tun device in the >sysconfig file. > >-- By this time the frustration level is so high that you feel like a real >loser and that maybe you have made a mistake with tackling this in the >first place. Your ISP, when you question them are worried that you may >bring down their system. So forthly you ask FreeBSD-Questions. I'm glad >that you weren't answering your mail that week, because I would have >probably formatted my partition and told anyone else that using UNIX is >only suitable for 3rd or 4th year academics. >
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