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Date:      Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:09:31 -0700
From:      John Armstrong <siberian@siberian.org>
To:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?!
Message-ID:  <v0421010eb3be5f14df8c@[216.112.76.84]>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.9907231248470.12396-100000@dragon.ham.muohio.edu>
References:   <Pine.LNX.4.10.9907231248470.12396-100000@dragon.ham.muohio.edu>

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>Because csh has been the traditional shell of BSD systems as long as I
>have been alive.  It might be neat to see a bash-clone with a BSD license
>available in the system just to get the "FreeBSD is so old, it doesn't
>even have BASH!!" to shut up.  Thoughts?

..and you can always install bash from the ports collection and then 
make it your 'default' shell in the adduser template. Just make sure 
root always has a base sh shell for emergencies and your set. All of 
my users default to tcsh. Thats a short term fix anyhow.

>There was a thread on misc@openbsd.org where some troll claimed that
>OpenBSD was so old, it didn't even have color-ls.  I laughed at that for a
>week.  As someone who does not need or use color-ls, I do not view this as
>an issue, I would like to see other's thoughts.

I agree. color ls is totally lame and I think you can get it running 
on freebsd but..why? I guess I must be the old one, not the OS... To 
each their own, but in my opinion a new install should never default 
to 'bells and whistles' mode as it assumes to much on the part of the 
end user hardware configs.


>
> > 4. Why _nobody_ is making a site like "http://www.linuxapps.com/" for the
> > *BSD system(s) in order to find easier apps?
>

Also check
http://www.freebsdrocks.com/   <-- fairly ok coverage
http://ww.freshmeat.net/ <-- mostly linux but many apps have free bsd 
versions OR run under emu.
The ports collection is totally awesome, I rarely need to venture out of it.
Almost all normal open source stuff compiles and runs great under FreeBSD.

John-



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