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Date:      23 Feb 2001 14:45:59 -0500
From:      Randell Jesup <rjesup@wgate.com>
To:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>, msinz@wgate.com (Mike Sinz), bbauman@wgate.com (Bruce Bauman)
Subject:   ELF and diskless boot
Message-ID:  <ybur90pxjwo.fsf_-_@jesup.eng.tvol.net.jesup.eng.tvol.net>
In-Reply-To: "David O'Brien"'s message of "Fri, 23 Feb 2001 04:34:40 -0800"
References:  <3A960EF8.75C3FC53@cup.hp.com> <20010222233800.A1394@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010222234457.D8663@fw.wintelcom.net> <20010222235035.A1656@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010223002412.F8663@fw.wintelcom.net> <20010223002753.A983@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010223003550.H8663@fw.wintelcom.net> <20010223043440.D2539@dragon.nuxi.com>

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FYI, is there a reason that we've set up our kernel interface to top, etc
to fail unless the kernel (in this case 4.x) is loaded with _debugging_
symbols?  I.e. if you strip a kernel, top (and a bunch of other stuff)
doesn't work because they can't find certain kernel structures.  To make
this worse, they also fail if you etherboot (because debug symbols aren't
loaded).

Is there a reason for this behavior?  Perhaps some benefit we don't see?
Any chance of getting this fixed?  I believe this appears sometime since
3.x, i.e. after we'd already moved to ELF, but I'm not sure.

(Note: I'm not the primary person investigating this; Mike is.  I think
he's looking at modding etherboot to work around the problem.)

-- 
Randell Jesup, Worldgate Communications, ex-Scala, ex-Amiga OS team ('88-94)
rjesup@wgate.com


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