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Date:      Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:57:19 -0500
From:      "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
To:        aw1@stade.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Cvsup to 3.3-RC Failure
Message-ID:  <3.0.3.32.19990911005719.014e4770@207.227.119.2>
In-Reply-To: <19990911001404.B23835@titus.stade.co.uk>
References:  <xzpbtbbnmti.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <3.0.3.32.19990910031758.01d785d0@207.227.119.2> <xzpbtbbnmti.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>

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At 12:14 AM 9/11/99 +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote:
>And it is not as if it actually costs you much more than a bit of swap space:
>
>aw1@titus /home/aw1$ ps -aux | grep getty
>root     365  0.0  0.0   828    0  v0  IWs+ -         0:00.00 (getty)
>root     366  0.0  0.0   828    0  v2  IWs+ -         0:00.00 (getty)
>root     367  0.0  0.0   828    0  v3  IWs+ -         0:00.00 (getty)
>root     368  0.0  0.0   828    0  v4  IWs+ -         0:00.00 (getty)
>root     369  0.0  0.0   828    0  v5  IWs+ -         0:00.00 (getty)
>root     370  0.0  0.0   828    0  v6  IWs+ -         0:00.00 (getty)
>root     371  0.0  0.0   828    0  v7  IWs+ -         0:00.00 (getty)
>root     372  0.0  0.0   828    0  v8  IWs+ -         0:00.00 (getty)
>                                ^
>				|
>--------------------------------+
>
>Admittedly, I was bitten by the change when it happened. That I
>was bitten was my own fault.  I do read the commit logs, but the
>significance of feeding the monster didn't hit me.  I later blithly
>merged away, rebooted and thought "Oops, take more care next time, don't
>simultaneously upgrade three machines in a hurry".

Ahhh, but when I got bit I edited /etc/ttys, so the cost increase was only
a few keystrokes when running mergemaster. ;)

>I would like to make a small plea for facts always in the logs, but
>still retaining the occasional bit of humour.

Agreed.

Kinda bothers me that I missed the discussion and I make it a point to read
all discussions on the cvs list and *all* RELENG_3 commits, as well as
eyeball the cvsup output.  DES (the person :) said it was discussed, but
somehow I missed it.  No matter, the reason was good.

Just have to remember the next time X is installed to "fix" /etc/ttys.


<muttering> Try to pay attention to what's going on and...
8-)


Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net
Systems/Network Administrator
FreeBSD - the power to serve
'86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered)



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