Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 08:37:24 -0500 From: "Michael B. Eichorn" <ike@michaeleichorn.com> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release schedule , nines and tens Message-ID: <1449495444.7860.30.camel@michaeleichorn.com> In-Reply-To: <5665166E.2090108@hiwaay.net> References: <5664CD2C.2090207@emailrob.com> <5665166E.2090108@hiwaay.net>
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--=-yvUQaxDh6xBQuoQD8Djy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2015-12-06 at 23:23 +0000, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 12/06/15 18:11, spellberg_robert wrote: > > howdy , folks --- > >=20 > > i see that the release schedules for 10.3 and 11.0 > > =C2=A0 are available much earlier than usual [ start of beta ] . > > this is nice . > > it permits me [ and others ] to plan_ahead , > > =C2=A0 to the extent of the published information . > >=20 > > i remembered seeing a notice , a_while back , that > > =C2=A0 the releases would be changed , beginning with the elevens . > > i went back , earlier today , to re_read this notice , > > =C2=A0 so that i would have its content fresh in my mind , > > =C2=A0 before i posed the following questions > > =C2=A0 [ see -announce , 2015_feb_03_tue , from mr. seaman ] . > > as i write this , i have it displayed on another screen . > >=20 > > now , i can read_between_the_lines as well as anybody > > =C2=A0 [ the support page , with the releases and their eol_dates , > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0is very helpful for guessing ; > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0i have that displayed , also , on t= hat other screen > > =C2=A0 ] . > > however , i do not like to make assumptions . > > therefore , given that change is approaching > > =C2=A0 [ and is , now , ten months closer , relative to the notice ] , > > =C2=A0 i come straight_out and ask : > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > a]=C2=A0=C2=A0does anyone know if decisions have been made regarding : > >=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A00]=C2=A0=C2=A0is=C2=A0=C2=A09.3 to = be the last of the nines or > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0is there a plan to release a=C2=A0=C2=A09.4 ? > >=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01]=C2=A0=C2=A0is 10.3 to be the las= t of the=C2=A0=C2=A0tens or > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0is there a plan to release a 10.4 ? > >=20 > > b]=C2=A0=C2=A0if=C2=A0=C2=A0so , what are those decisions ? > >=20 > > c]=C2=A0=C2=A0if not , is there a known or an estimated date for > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the making of the above_described d= ecisions ? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > fwiw , i like to use the highest minor_number , > > =C2=A0 because the dot_zero bugs have been found and fixed . > > i got a lot of mileage out of 4.11 and 6.4 > > =C2=A0 [ for me , they played like champs ; > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0in fact , the only reason for the r= etiring of 6.4 was > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the acquisition of 64_bit hardware > > =C2=A0 ] . > > i never installed a 5 , because of all of the release_controversy . > > a 7.4 was replaced quickly [ acroread would not install ] by 8.4 . > > i am currently running 8.1 , 8.4 , 9.3 and 10.2 > > =C2=A0 [ 10.2 was an emergency install that , probably , > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0will not survive the release of 10.= 3 > > =C2=A0 ] . > > the 8.1 should be replaced [ but , it just keeps working ] . > > the 8.4 is three years newer ; it can wait until the summer . > > i want to settle on the nines and tens > > =C2=A0 while i watch the elevens and the new policy shake_out . > >=20 > > thanks , in advance , for any information . > >=20 > > rob > >=C2=A0 >=20 > $0.02 from the cheap seats: I'd love to see a 9.4, maybe 9.5, w/ > docker=20 > & 64-bit emulation working AOK .... Oc course I might get stuck there > ;-) .... >=20 >=20 At the moment:=C2=A0https://www.freebsd.org/releng/ Shows only plans for 10.3 and 11.0. And if we were going to see a 9.4 I would expect the planning to already be done. And:=C2=A0https://www.freebsd.org/security/ States that the Expected EOL for stable/9, releng/9.3, and releng/10.2 as 2016-12-31. While stable/10 does not yet have an Expected EOL. (10.3 and 11.0 are not yet listed). My impression is that in principle they would have liked to do a 9.4 but are unwilling to extend the life of the 9 branch. 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