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Date:      Sun, 01 Jan 2017 13:07:44 -0800
From:      Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org>
To:        "abi" <abi@abinet.ru>
Cc:        "" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: End of year Xorg status rant
Message-ID:  <1595bdc0a96.b508ef2f74041.1895406691949887756@nextbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <58696F74.2000703@abinet.ru>
References:  <20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.rsb> <15952279f17.e0be0d8c34357.732964216134709731@nextbsd.org> <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <20161231145143.18e6ac99@rsbsd.rsb> <CAMwkeZz%2BJA2Lzjs9=MYVvYrU61XbLnfdYbwqAwXL3oBPWdw9kQ@mail.gmail.com> <20170101183653.2c85698a@rsbsd.rsb> <CALM2mE=epAkxxYOn3EmeULrDay3fR=PGJ93k_xLCzHELP3aA9A@mail.gmail.com> <1595bce760d.c5a48b9473813.1749970069728099599@nextbsd.org> <58696F74.2000703@abinet.ru>

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 ---- On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 13:05:58 -0800 abi <abi@abinet.ru> wrote ---- 
 >  
 > On 01.01.2017 23:52, Matthew Macy wrote: 
 > > Evangelists != money. If some data center operator tomorrow said that they'd buy 2000 pascal cards, but they had to be supported by FreeBSD, Nvidia would support would appear shortly thereafter. Unfortunately, that is not likely to happen. 
 > > 
 > It would be better if Nvidia drops support of FreeBSD. I remember we had  
 > nouveau in 7.x (2010 ?) but nvidia driver killed it. And it continue to  
 > haunt graphics subsystem, killing the enthusiasm to port amd or intel  
 > drivers. BSDs without access to nvidia blob are ahead of us even if they  
 > have much less manpower. 

Although it is nice to have a professionally supported driver, I frequently refer to the nvidia driver as a "trojan horse" because of the ensuing neglect of everything else.

-M




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