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Date:      Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:29:56 +0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>, Karl Pielorz <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>, Edwin Culp <eculp@webwizard.org.mx>, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Make elf release 
Message-ID:  <199810150129.JAA08855@spinner.netplex.com.au>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:54:50 %2B0930." <19981015105450.I586@freebie.lemis.com> 

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Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Wednesday, 14 October 1998 at 21:12:54 +0100, Doug Rabson wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Peter Wemm wrote:
> >> Karl Pielorz wrote:
> >>> Hmmm.. Well if I'm right about not being able to debug LDK's with an ELF
> >>> kernel, I have to keep my kernel a.out... An LKM I'm betaing has a few
> >>> problems, which means it's gotta be debug(able)...
> >>
> >> Umm, it's the other way around..  DDB can't see a.out LKM's for debugging.
> >> DDB *can* see both a.out and elf KLD modules.  KLD modules are the first
> >> time that DDB has worked with modular kernels.
> >>
> >> It's GDB that is the problem - it can't see KLD modules.  Mind you, it
> >> can't see LKM's either.
> >
> > It should be possible to debug both with GDB with judicious use of
> > 'add-symbol-file' with the module filename and the load address (I believe
> > that there is normally a fixed offset from the load address).  I have a
> > vague memory of writing something about this in the handbook.  Maybe I
> > was dreaming...
> 
> What you describe is pretty much the way it works with LKMs today.
> What I've understood is that KLDs will be different.

This works the same with KLD as well, see my previous mail on the subject
which included a demo.  The major difference between LKM's and KLD's is
that DDB works with KLD with full symbols.

> Greg

Cheers,
-Peter




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