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Date:      Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:14:03 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Patrick Morris <patrick@expresshost.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: help - Ethernet AND Modem
Message-ID:  <19990206181403.K79703@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990206023156.0090d5c0@expresshost.com>; from Patrick Morris on Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 02:31:56AM -0500
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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at  2:31:56 -0500, Patrick Morris wrote:
>
> Greg:
>
> I thank you kindly for your rudeness, and your comparing me to a drunkard
> was greatly appreciated,

Well, sorry that you took offence, Patrick.  It wasn't meant to be
rude.  It's a classic story of errors in debugging, and in fact it has
nothing to do with drunks.

> as to the questions you asked, they were all answered in my email,
> had you read it thoroughly.

I did.  You're still looking under the lamppost.  But you should
consider, when you come asking for free advice, that you should make
it as easy as possible for the people to help you.

> "What are you using as a dialer (pppd doesn't dial)?"
>
> I had stated midway through the email:
>
>> I was under the impression that the kppp dialer would automatically
>> add the necessary entries permanently, or at
>
> to which you replied:
>
> Temporarily.
>
> This (in my opinion anyway) implies to me that the kppp dialer was used.

You're ignoring what I said.  pppd doesn't dial.  You also haven't
answered my first question: what do you mean by kppp or KPPP?

>> "First we need to know what's wrong with your PPP connection.  The
>> routing will take care of itself (hopefully).  Where are your
>> config files?  Have you done the chat script in debug mode? Greg"
>
> Now, to recap my entire email to answer the rest of your questions, the
> problem with my PPP connection is that i had set it up originally to
> conduct PPP activity through a network card, 

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  Probably not face value, anyway
(you can run PPP over Ethernet, but nobody does it).  Anyway, it
doesn't seem to be the issue.

> and now i want to have it set up so that my modem can also use PPP
> while i'm not on the network. Since i try to connect using ~*KPPP*~
> which automates all of my config files, and scripts, they don't
> apply. Now, Kppp dials into my ISP fine, a login prompt appears on
> my terminal, i enter my username and password, i get a bunch of
> !$~@$%^!#$%#!~%$! type stuff and push "continue".

OK.  I said at the very beginning I wasn't sure what you mean by kppp.
Now we have kppp, KPPP, ~*KPPP*~ and Kppp.  You need to explain what
you are doing.

> Then, kppp continues with a little message says "attempting to start
> pppd" or something along those lines, and it never connects. I was
> assuming (i'm no expert) that it was getting confused having a
> network card and a modem both configured for the same IP and same
> settings all the way around. But, it could be anything.

Right.

> Please help me out if you can, and keep in mind, no response at all is
> better then a rude one

OK.  Answer my questions.

Greg
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