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Date:      Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:50:58 -0500
From:      "Richard E. Hawkins" <hawk@eyry.econ.iastate.edu>
To:        Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: help, it won't let go of my floppy 
Message-ID:  <199906151850.NAA83705@eyry.econ.iastate.edu>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:13:14 PDT." <Pine.BSF.4.03.9906151113010.2596-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> 

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doug replied,

> On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Richard E. Hawkins wrote:

> > There seems to be something wrong with my floppy drive, or the diskette 
> > in it.

> > I tried to umount it, and it's seeking endlessly.  It's been at it 
> > about 20 minutes so far.  Last time that this happened, it resulted in 
> > not properly dismounting the other file systems on the next boot.

> > My hard disk now seems to be abnormally busy, as well.

> > How do I get control of the system back?

> Interrupt problems?

I have no idea, but I doubt it.  This box had run debian for about a 
year and a half, save for ill-fated bouts of less than a week each with 
FreeBSD 3.0 1nd 3.1 (mutual hostility between the file systems with 
3.0, and 3.1 panicced on boot about 20% of the time due to the extended 
partition).  WHatever the interrupt settings are, they came there from 
the factory, and worked for a long timel

Debian had come to dislike the floppy, too, but simply had errors.  
There's part of the diskette that it just doesn't seem to want to 
access, and it starts grinding.  IT can read well enough to boot either 
the freebsd install disks or debian, but only about 50-50 for tom's 
unix, and it can't write well enough for any of the three.  

BUt under linux, it grinds & fails, while FreeBSD continues to try 
forever.  After about 20 minutes of grinding, I pulled the power from 
it.  A couple of hours later, i reconnected, and it was still grinding. 
Not to long after that, pieces of the system started dying off--parts 
but not all of window selection in fvwm, etc.  I tried to reboot, but 
it was too late.  It would reply to pings from outside, but was dead on 
every port I could think of.

Somehow it seems related to the floppy driver never giving up and 
returning an error, even after physical removal of the diskette, and 
even after the hardware ceased talking.

Once I get a new floppy, i'd be happy to mail this eveil kernel-killer 
off to a developer who can make use of it.  But I have no spares, so 
it's goign to be a few weeks.

rick

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