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Date:      Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:20:56 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Jonathon Doran <doranj@Colorado.EDU>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ping
Message-ID:  <199906292120.PAA21762@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <H000008201dcb10a@MHS> from "Clem.Dye@wdr.com" at Jun 29, 99 02:55:33 pm

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The use of ".1" as a gateway is a convention that some sites use, and isn't
required.  Since the BSD box is the gateway for this network (it gates
via the modem), moving it off .1 and then using .1 as a gateway address
wouldn't work.  There would be no machine on the network at .1, so traffic
for that address would be discarded.

> OK, I'm pretty new to this routing stuff, but I thought that the .1 
> address was normally reserved for a gateway. If so, shouldn't the BSD 
> box have it's own IP address and a gateway address? With that in 

Turning to the original complaint...

(ed: corrected the spacing on the diagram)

> > Rami Soudah wrote:

> > > ISP <-----modem--->BSD (earth)
> > >                    |
> > >                    Win (metro)
> > >
> > > WIN-Hostname = metro = 192.168.0.2
> > > BSD-Hostname = earth  = 192.168.0.1
> > > I configured the BSD as Gateway for my Win box.

This seems like a reasonable thing to do.  A lot of us, including myself, do
this.

> > > I could ping 'earth' 'metro' and 'localhost' from the BSD box, and
> > > and I did the same at Win box, I was able to ping 'earth'
> 'localhost'
> > > from the Win box without having any troubles,
> > > but  _not_  'metro'.

The problem appears to be name resolution related, see below.

> > > c:\windows>ping metro
> > > Pinging metro [4.0.0.3] with 32 bytes of data:

The name "metro" is being resolved as 4.0.0.3, which is incorrect.  This
is l0.washdc3-cmb.bbnplanet.net, sound familiar?  The address is unimportant
in any case.

> > > Reply from 192.168.0.1: Destination host unreachable.

Either the FreeBSD machine isn't routing the traffic to bbnplanet, or (more
likely) the address is dynamically assigned and isn't in use.

> > > *) I was wondering from where 4.0.0.3 comes??

Good question.  How did you configure name resolution on the Windows machine?
Are you using WINS, DNS, an LMHOSTS file?

> > > *) Why I keep getting 'Reply from 192.168.0.1'? i am not pinging
> > >     192.168.0.1 it should be 192.168.0.2.

The FreeBSD machine is reporting the error.  It received an ICMP destination
unreachable packet, and forwards this to the Windows machine.  This seems OK.

> > > What could be wrong?
> > > my /etc/hosts (BSD)
I don't see any evidence that the FreeBSD machine is configured wrong.  Most
likely cause is the Windows machine obtaining resolution info from a
strange source.

> > > c:\windows\hosts (Win)
> > > 127.0.0.1        localhost
> > > 192.168.0.1    earth earth.my.domain
> > > 192.168.0.2     metro metro.my.domain

This file may not be in use.  Check your TCP/IP properties tab in the network
control panel.

> > > P.S. If  I ping the IP's I dont have any troubles in both 
> machines.

Further evidence to support a name resolution diagnosis.

> > Microsoft TCP/IP
> > seems to work better if you set "File and Printer Sharing" both to
> "ON"

Not an issue here.  Lets work one problem at a time.

> One thing more, i cant run mIRC at my Win-box

mIRC requires a proxy such as socks5.  ipfw or ipnat may do the job for you,
I haven't experimented with these.  I run proxies on the gateway instead.
I haven't had success with DCC yet, one of these days I might get around to
putting together a proxy for it.  Until then, expect to be DCC-less on the
interior network, unless someone comes up with a good solution (other than
plug-boarding every single port).

Jon Doran


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