Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:11:44 +0530 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> To: Jeremiah Gowdy <jgowdy@home.com> Cc: Travis Cole <tcole@wcug.wwu.edu>, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson <insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IRC Message-ID: <20000502211143.C1682@physics.iisc.ernet.in> In-Reply-To: <001701bfb449$e103d400$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com>; from jgowdy@home.com on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 08:19:58AM -0700 References: <20000501183644.A75942@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <20000501221654.A20589@wcug.wwu.edu> <000f01bfb3f9$5db2f0e0$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com> <20000502000316.A24887@wcug.wwu.edu> <001701bfb449$e103d400$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com>
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I've restrained myself from saying anything because I don't use IRC, but this is getting ridiculous. If #freebsdhelp is the help channel, advertise it somewhere. In fact, advertise it prominently on the web page, in the handbook, and in other relevant places. If newbies wander in to #freebsd, point them to #freebsdhelp. I'm sure they'll go by themselves once they know about it. Don't expect them to know the correct channel intuitively. OK you've now said #freebsdhelp 51 times on this list, so do you think they're all subscribed to -advocacy? With that attitude, don't even begin to think about freebsd "advocacy". It's a great system, the FreeBSD gurus know all about it, so keep it to yourself and enjoy it, but don't expect others to come in from outside and somehow know everything without being told. R. Jeremiah Gowdy said on May 2, 2000 at 08:19:58: > > Well, the thing is neither I nor my coworker are FreeBSD or Unix > > newbies by any means. We are professional Sysadmins for a rather > > large internet company and are responsible for several hundred > > unix hosts, including many (more than 30) FreeBSD web servers. > > Well, if you're so experienced in FreeBSD, and you've been in #freebsd > before, you know #freebsd is not a help channel. > > > #FreeBSD seems like a natural place to ask such a question since > > many project members spend time there. > > #FreeBSD is not the natural place to ask any question. Are we making that > somewhat clear ? Those same project members are also in #freebsdhelp. > #FreeBSD is an IRC channel and owned by the operators. If they decide that > there is no talking allowed in the channel, that's their perogitive. If > they decide only their good friends can come in the channel, same thing. > Bitching about it on the advocacy list isn't going to change how they handle > their channel. I must have said it 50 times, but lemme say it again, > #freebsdhelp. > > > But that assumption is apparently quite wrong. > > > > Sorry, I won't make the mistake of asking questions on #FreeBSD no > > matter how intelligent or stupid they may be. > > Now you're getting the idea. > > > Just a bit annoyed how people seem to assume one is a total Unix > > of FreeBSD newbie moron if they ask questions. Not just dumb > > questions, questions, any questions at all. > > It's more a matter of asking questions in the wrong place. You may not be a > FreeBSD newbie, but I would say your IRC experience is very weak. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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