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Date:      Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:05:30 +0100
From:      Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
To:        "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@nwlink.com>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, core@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues
Message-ID:  <20000928100529.A51667@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.96.1000927093541.25279B-100000@utah>; from jcwells@nwlink.com on Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 10:18:50AM -0700
References:  <Pine.SOL.3.96.1000927093541.25279B-100000@utah>

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On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 10:18:50AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote:
> Does the webserver have a database engine running on it?  Does the
> webserver have PHP?  Will it?  Can it? 

No.  Maybe.  Yes.

(No, that's not eivind's most recent e-mail address).

It might do, if the benefits outweigh the costs.  The cost, basically,
is that the existing mirrors have to be able to duplicate it easily, and
it needs to be as simple as possible to set up.  That would basically
mean putting the site infrastructure tools in to the ports tree (where
they're not already there) and coming up with a list of 7-10 things that
a new web mirror has to do.

PHP and database stuff also brings up interesting issues relating to 

  1.  How do you version the content in the database?
  2.  How do you make it easy for translators to translate it?
  3.  How do you audit it?
 
> How does the mail archive and search work?  

Poorly.

> Is it home grown or is it some third party software?  

WAIS, from what I can gather.

> Are there docs in existence? 

Ho ho ho.

Ahem.  No, not yet.  
 
> Hom does the current web search work?  Is it home grown or is it some
> third pacty software?  Are there docs for it?

As above.

> I heard a rumor that the current search system has become unmanageable.
> Can someone in the know speak on that issue?

I don't know if "unmanageable" is the right word.  But it certainly doesn't
seem to be returning the right sort of hits, it's poorly documented, and
the options when searching are very limited.

> As I understand rumblings on chat, folks aren't terribly dissatisfied. 
> They do want a stronger boolean syntax and date functionality.  They want
> sortability on the results.
>  
> I could answer these questions for myself if I were allowed to poke
> around.  Could someone vouch for me for an account on hub?

I'd have no problem with that -- I've cc'd this to -core for their
perusal.

N
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