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Date:      Tue, 14 Nov 2000 20:49:56 +0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
To:        Doug MacKintosh <doug@doug.net>
Cc:        grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Microsoft Source (fwd) 
Message-ID:  <200011141250.eAECnuL07140@mobile.wemm.org>
In-Reply-To: <200011121935.MAA26831@gw.doug.net> 

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Doug MacKintosh wrote:
> > > and Microsoft was actually running a large chunk of their language
> > > engineering on Xenix on Sun machines, as late as 1988 (I got a call
> > > from a Microsoft employee wanting to buy a copy of our
> > > communications software for Xenix running on Sun hardware; when I
> > > said "What?!?", he said "Oh, that's right, it's an internal product
> > > only".  Originally, Xenix only ran on 68000 hardware.
> > 
> > Do you have any evidence for this?  Admittedly, there was 68000
> > hardware at the time, but it was very early, and there's no obvious
> > reason why Microsoft (which was definitely in charge of XENIX) would
> > have bothered to port to an architecture they didn't plan to use,
> > especially since it was big-endian and 32 bit, whereas both the PDP-11
> > and i86 were little-endian and 16 bit.  I'd suspect that you're
> > extrapolating here.
> 
> Gents,
> 
> My first Unix machines, which I purchased very-well-used in 1987 or 
> so, were two M68000 (10MHz) contraptions manufactured by a company 
> called Spectrix. They ran Microsoft Xenix (v3.2? v2.3? - I forget). The 
> machines, I believe, were manufactured in 1981 or thereabouts. Spectrix
> called them model 30s. They used the Intel Multibus and had a couple
> dozen serial ports, 2MB of RAM, two 29MB SASI drives and a QIC tape.
> 
> I heard a rumour that these boxen were actually Sun 0's or some such thing.

Dont forget the Tandy/Radio Shack Model 16.  It was a 68000 based Xenix box
with a Z80 "IO coprocessor".  It was commercially produced and marketed.
You could have three terminals, and (wait for it) 8 inch floppys (with three
external drives) and even a 5 or 10MB *hard disk*... :-)

I actually threw out my catalog that had photos and details from about the
1983-84 era.

Cheers,
-Peter
--
Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au
"All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5



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