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Date:      Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:37:37 -0500
From:      Bill Vermillion <bill@wjv.com>
To:        Blaz Zupan <blaz@amis.net>
Cc:        "Drew J. Weaver" <drew.weaver@thenap.com>, "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Cyclades opinions....
Message-ID:  <20010326143737.C25314@wjv.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0103261946170.94595-100000@titanic.medinet.si>; from blaz@amis.net on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:48:24PM %2B0200
References:  <B1A7D9973EBED3119ADD009027DC8649180EFE@mailman.thenap.com> <Pine.BSF.4.33.0103261946170.94595-100000@titanic.medinet.si>

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:48:24PM +0200, Blaz Zupan thus spoke:

> > Max 4048s are far superior to any Portmaster product, and Max
> > TNTs are even better.

> Of course the Max 4048 is an obsolete product as well with no
> software updates beyond 7.x.x. I'd say buying into an obsolete
> product at this point is a bad choice. Yes, if you're a company
> offering dialup to your employees, sure, buy whatever fits you, if
> anybody complains just tell them to go to hell :) But if you're an
> ISP, buying into an obsolete and unsupported platform (PM3, Max
> 4048) is a big mistake. You'll lose tons of customers on mistakes
> like this.

We bought a used 4048 - that had obsolete modems in it - for just
one purpose.  It was used for incoming ISDN and worked quite well
for that at great savings.

And all ISP's aren't the same.  I have a PM - bought it cheap -
only for the the ISDN lines coming into that [not the same as the
above place].  It will also only be be used for emergency access ot
the system.  Customers will be ADSL/ISDN/T1 [or faster] only. 

So it depends on your needs - used is good in the proper place -
but not all places are proper :-) 

Bill
-- 
Bill Vermillion -   bv @ wjv . com

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