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Date:      Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:41:01 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Mike Barcroft <mike@FreeBSD.org>, Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>, Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile src/usr.sbin/daemon Makefile daemon.8 daemon.c
Message-ID:  <20010831154101.D69064@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010831095811.E1544@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:58:11AM %2B0930
References:  <200108300448.f7U4m2V90826@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010830052449.143D63E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010830021541.A80938@coffee.q9media.com> <3B8DEEB1.39836E5A@FreeBSD.org> <20010830140158.C80938@coffee.q9media.com> <20010831095811.E1544@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:58:11AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Thursday, 30 August 2001 at 14:01:58 -0400, Mike Barcroft wrote:
> > Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> >> Mike Barcroft wrote:
> >>> Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org> writes:
> >>>> Mike Barcroft <mike@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >>>>> mike        2001/08/29 21:48:02 PDT
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Modified files:
> >>>>>     usr.sbin             Makefile
> >>>>>   Added files:
> >>>>>     usr.sbin/daemon      Makefile daemon.8 daemon.c
> >>>>>   Log:
> >>>>>   Add a new utility that runs an executable detached from the
> >>>>>   controlling terminal.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why is it in sbin?  I see no reason why mortal users can't use this.
> >>>
> >>> It's primary use is for spawning daemons, which is normally done by an
> >>> administrator.  Also, this commit preserves compatibility with BSD/OS.
> >>
> >> I don't think that these arguments are very strong, I am with Dima on that
> >> - put it into usr.bin instead.
> >
> > Please tell me why you believe its intended use isn't a strong
> > argument for its location.  It's not that I'm unwilling to move it, I
> > would just appreciate a justifiable reason before I gratuitously break
> > compatibility with BSD/OS.
> 
> I can see lots of reasons to run programs detached; connecting to a
> remote system and running some background process, for example.  I can
> see that this utility is useful for spawning system daemons as well,
> but that doesn't seem enough of a reason to put it in /usr/sbin.  The
> BSD/OS precedent is a reason, of course, but I don't know if it's good
> enough.  We've moved programs in the past.
> 
Yeah, `which chown chmod' is a good example of inconsistency.


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