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Date:      Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:44:11 +0100
From:      Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
To:        Bart Matthaei <bart@dreamflow.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Administrivia: Discussion - Making this list subscriber-only 
Message-ID:  <200208271244.g7RCiBl5019984@grimreaper.grondar.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020827122623.GC34393@heresy.dreamflow.nl> ; from Bart Matthaei <bart@dreamflow.nl>  "Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:26:23 %2B0200."
References:  <20020827122623.GC34393@heresy.dreamflow.nl> 

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> > I would very much like to make this list subscriber-only. This will
> > cut down dramatically on spam and the inevitable misdirected
> > 'subscribe' postings. The downside is that folks will not be able
> > to reply to the list if they receive it via a list redirector (IE
> > if a corporate role account/list-alias has been used to subscribe).
> > In this case, those folks would become read-only members (which may
> > in some cases be OK). Other folks would need to subscribe to the
> > list with their 'real' email address.
> 
> I dissagree with the idea of making this list subscriber-only. There
> are people who mail to this list with a single question, and without
> subscribing to the list. If you make this list subscriber-only, you
> are forcing these people to subscribe. I personally hate it when I
> have to subscribe to a list when I only have one single report or
> question.

You are missing the point of the list :-).

This is _not_ a questions list. This is a discussions list. If you have
a one-off question, there are places to ask it. If you wish to discuss,
then there is no problem with subscribing, no?

One-off reports fall into 3 categories; 1) bugs, 2) build problems and
3) critical security holes. Each of these has its place in an existing
list: 1) bugs (via send-pr), 2) -current or -stable, 3) security-officer.

> If you want to get rid of spam, just get a spamfilter, and stop
> complaining, because the actual discussion about spam is more annoying
> than the spam itself.

We already have that. Spammers are very inventive when it comes to evading
filters.

M
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