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Date:      Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:42:28 -0600
From:      Ken Gunderson <kgunders@teamcool.net>
To:        David Reid <david@jetnet.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: workstation mobo
Message-ID:  <20050815084228.2828df8a.kgunders@teamcool.net>
In-Reply-To: <4300A6E4.4030103@jetnet.co.uk>
References:  <20050812085823.645f5b39.kgunders@teamcool.net> <20050812205356.GA15463@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <8f554029050815011672ec4a5a@mail.gmail.com> <20050815080116.0382d538.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4300A6E4.4030103@jetnet.co.uk>

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:29:56 +0100
David Reid <david@jetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Ken Gunderson wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:16:52 +1000
> > • • <googl3meister@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>On 8/13/05, Juergen Lock <nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 08:58:23AM -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Greets All:
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm liking these amd opteron servers so much that I am considering
> >>>>building an amd based workstationn.  Assumed it would be Athalon based
> >>>>but in searching archives I note that some folks seem to prefer the
> >>>>opterons for workstation use. Perhaps to some degree in reaction
> >>>>to the "chipset mess".  I'm not averse to spending a bit more for the
> >>>>opteron system but it seems to me the Opteron's CPU heatsink/fan might
> >>>>be a bit noisy for workstation use.  And I have buddies shouting in my
> >>>>ear to "stick w/ Intel" for workstation.  But then I also know others
> >>>>who run AMD for their desktop machines.  Any recommends based on current
> >>>>state of affairs in the ADM hardware world?
> >>>
> >>>I just got a new box with an Asus A8V Deluxe board (VIA K8T800 Pro,
> >>>Socket 939), and so far everything seems to be working.  The only
> >>>unusual thing i had to do for FreeBSD (5.4-R) was adding a patch
> >>>to the sk nic driver (see other thread.)
> >>>
> >>
> >>Update on ASUS A8V Deluxe for archives
> >>
> >>I installed 5.4-RELEASE about April (2005) and track 5-Stable on that
> >>hardware straight from CVS - never had a prob with sk0 yet, it's
> >>worked since day one with no boot time errors.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the input.  My short list is two VIA KT890 based boards:
> > 
> > - Abit AX8v2.0
> > - Asus A8-E SE
> > 
> > I've had good history w/both of these mobo makers but the Asus gets a
> > an extra plus in the support department since I can usually find bios
> > updates etc. on their site w/a bit less digging...;-)
> 
> when I updated I went for an ABit An-8 Ultra, based on the nVidia
> chipset, but while the board *almost* works correctly, it seems to have
> some issues. Also given nVidias approach to drivers I'd suggest avoiding
> them - I would have if I'd known how bad they were!

Which is why I'm looking at VIA based boards.  Moreover, given nVidia's
unwillingness to play nicely with others you can rest assured I'll also
be purchasing an ATI based VPU...... nVidia probably doesn't give a
damn one way or the other since they make plenty profit off the
mainstream Winblows gamers.  But I can do my part and boycott their
stuff to the extent possible...

I've talked with Tyan about the nVidia issues and encouraged them to
continue making boards based on AMD chipset but Tyan USA representative
informed me that AMD was getting out of the chipset business now that
nVidia is making "good ones".  Maybe somebody w/contacts at AMD could
clue them into the nVidia mess.

 -- Best regards,

Ken Gunderson

Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon?




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