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Date:      Sun, 2 Apr 2006 16:09:30 -0400
From:      Anish Mistry <mistry.7@osu.edu>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        Chris <chrcoluk@gmail.com>, eol1@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Hard crash on 6.x -- reproducible, multiple people affected
Message-ID:  <200604021609.46059.mistry.7@osu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20060402195117.GA57593@xor.obsecurity.org>
References:  <5F1267A9-EAC2-4E6B-9F17-13827E40ADD4@shire.net> <200604021543.02376.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20060402195117.GA57593@xor.obsecurity.org>

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On Sunday 02 April 2006 15:51, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 03:43:01PM -0400, Anish Mistry wrote:
> > On Sunday 02 April 2006 15:22, Chris wrote:
> > > On 31/03/06, Peter Thoenen <eol1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Hallo everybody.  Will prob end up PR'ing this but want to
> > > > post to the list first and get some feelers.  At first I
> > > > thought it was just me but as the port maintainer for
> > > > tor-devel I have had a couple other folk email me with the
> > > > exact same problem (believing tor to be the cause). Its not.
> > > >
> > > > Problem: When tor (running in server mode), i2p, or freenet
> > > > is ran (all high bandwidth, high number of concurrent tcp /
> > > > udp / ip connections, maybe 2000+ sim connects @ a constant 4
> > > > mb) between the 2 and 4 hour mark a system running FBSD 6
> > > > will hard crash and power off.  This is reproducible (though
> > > > not on demand, just on arbitrary time between 2 and 4 hours).
> > > >
> > > > Troubleshooting so far:
> > > >
> > > > - It is NOT an issue on 5.x.  It is an issue on both 6.0 and
> > > > 6.1BETA4.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - It is not easy to reproduce.  I assume a couple hundred
> > > > people use these ports and I have only had a dozen or so
> > > > report this problem to me.  All of the people suffering from
> > > > this though CAN reproduce this crash on demand.  I have to
> > > > assume though the other 99% of users though do not see this
> > > > error for unknown reasons.
> > > >
> > > > - It is not a port issue (as tor/i2p/freenet all can cause
> > > > it). It is not a java issue (was another early worry of mine
> > > > but tor is written in C).
> > > >
> > > > - The hard crash does NOT generate a dump or panic for
> > > > anybody I have spoken with.  /var/crash comes up empty every
> > > > time.
> >
> > Ok, so the machines hard lock and require power cycling them?=20
> > I'd advise throwing in a firewire card into one of these systems
> > and setup remote debugging.  There should be some info on the web
> > for getting this setup.  With the firewire debugging you should
> > be able to access the systems memory space remotely even if there
> > is a hard lock and the OS is not responding.  I haven't setup
> > this last part myself, but I'm pretty sure I read it was
> > possible.
>
> It's not clear what he means by "hard crash", but he also says "and
> power off", which is the part that is most confusing to me.
Hmmm...I missed that part.  Yeah, if it powers off then I'm not sure=20
what you can do to debug it.

=2D-=20
Anish Mistry

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