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Date:      Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:29:47 +0100
From:      Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk>
To:        Anders Troback <freebsd@troback.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: minimum xorg install for clients side
Message-ID:  <20080707142947.GA10030@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20080707152730.2ade42be@itpc02.gelita.swe>
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On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 03:27:30PM +0200, Anders Troback wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:17:11 +0100
> Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 08:05:24PM +0200, Anders Trob??ck wrote:
> > > On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:24:08 +0100
> > > Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 02:16:36PM +0200, Anders Trob??ck wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you want to have a remote GUI logon with XDMCP install XDM,
> > > > > GDM or KDM then you can start X with the -query parameter!
> > > > > 
> > > > > If this wasn't what you where asking please ask again:-)
> > > > 
> > > > sorry, I wasn't clear.
> > > > 
> > > > I have 2 FBSD boxes: a server with no graphics card (S) and a
> > > > laptop (L). I want to run X applications on S and see the results
> > > > on L. The applications I run on S are typically xpdf, gs, xfig,
> > > > display, firefox, etc.
> > > > 
> > > > While I could install ports/xorg on both boxes, this is probably
> > > > excessive. Since I won't run any xorg applications on L, I
> > > > probably don't need xorg-apps on L. Likewise, since I'm not
> > > > running xorg server on S, I probably don't need xorg-server on S.
> > > > This is my basic understanding of xorg server-clients model. Is
> > > > this logic correct?
> > > > 
> > > > However, I'm not sure on what box (S, L or both) I need:
> > > > 	xorg-libraries
> > > > 	xorg-fonts
> > > > 	xorg-drivers
> > > > 	xorg-protos
> > > > 
> > > > 	etc.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > If you are after a real minimal installation with XDMCP you can do
> > > like this:
> > > 
> > > On S:
> > > x11/xdm
> > > 
> > > On L:
> > > x11-servers/xorg-server
> > > x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
> > > x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
> > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel (or what ever card you have)
> > > x11-fonts/font-alias
> > > x11-fonts/font-cursor-misc
> > > x11-fonts/font-misc-misc
> > > 
> > > Configure X on L:
> > > X -configure
> > > X -config xorg.conf.new
> > > cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> > > 
> > > Configure XDM on S:
> > > Read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-xdm.html
> > > 
> > > Start XDM on S:
> > > xdm
> > > (if you want it to start after reboot look for a line about xdm
> > > (ttyv8) in /etc/ttys, change off to on)
> > > 
> > > Start X on L:
> > > X -query S
> > 
> > Anders thanks
> > 
> > I tried to follow your guidelines, but cannot see the login prompt
> > after X -query S. I also cannot see port 177 open on S, only:
> > 
> > 	6000/tcp open  X11
> > 
> > Should 177/udp and /tcp be open on S? How to do this?
> > 
> > I've the following line in /etc/ttys:
> > 
> > 	ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -daemon"    xterm   on  secure
> > 
> > and:
> > 
> > % ps ax|grep xdm
> > 38718  ??  Is     0:00.08 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -daemon ttyv8
> > 44523  ??  Rs     0:17.61 /usr/local/bin/X :0
> > -auth /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/auth 44524  ??  Ss     0:08.04 xdm: :0
> > (xdm) 45544  v4  RL+    0:00.01 grep xdm
> > %
> > 
> > and I commented out this line in xdm-config 
> > 
> > !DisplayManager.requestPort:    0
> > 
> > What am I missing?
> > 
> > 
> > many thanks
> > anton
> > 
> 
> How does you /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess look?
> 
> Try to put:
> 
> LISTEN xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 
> where the xxx thing are the ip of S!

I've the following two lines in Xaccess
*
LISTEN xx.xx.xx.xx

where xx is the server ip.
So it should give access to any server to xdm.

I also notice these errors in xdm.log:
 
xdm error (pid 9961): server open failed for myhost:0, giving up
xdm error (pid 4191): Display myhost:0 cannot be opened
xdm error (pid 4191): Display myhost:0 is being disabled

where myhost is the nodename of L.


I also realsed I might not need xdmcp, as I seem to be able to
run graphical apps on S with ssh X11 forwarding. In which case
all I need are the actual applications I run, e.g xterm or xpdf.
So your initial responce to my question makes sense to me now.


many thanks
anton
 
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