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Date:      Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:01:33 +0300
From:      Dmitry Kolosov <ivakras1@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Problem on AMD64
Message-ID:  <200812241901.33857.ivakras1@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20081224122702.C29108@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
References:  <20081221233822.7E92545020@ptavv.es.net> <200812231941.11998.ivakras1@gmail.com> <20081224122702.C29108@sola.nimnet.asn.au>

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On Wednesday 24 December 2008 05:01:50 Ian Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Dmitry Kolosov wrote:
>  > On Tuesday 23 December 2008 06:40:50 Ian Smith wrote:
>  > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008, Dmitry Kolosov wrote:
>  > > [..]
>  > >
>  > >  > Could you give to us some links about powersaving with EST? For
>  > >  > now, i'm using powerd:
>  > >  > powerd_enable="YES"
>  > >  > powerd_flags="-a maximum -b adaptive -n adaptive -r 30 -i 35"
>  > >  > in my rc.conf. I'm not on AMD64, so i'm sorry, powerd works well to
>  > >  > me (125 MHz on battery and 2.16GHz on AC), BUT battery life time is
>  > >  > equal in both cases and something about 50 minutes, so i think
>  > >  > powerd is not so powerfull for me.
>  > >
>  > >      -i percent  Specifies the CPU idle percent level when adaptive
>  > > mode should begin to degrade performance to save power.  The default
>  > > is 90% or higher.
>  > >
>  > >      -r percent  Specifies the CPU idle percent level where adaptive
>  > > mode should consider the CPU running and increase performance. The
>  > > default is 65% or lower.
>  > >
>  > > I don't think your powerd running and idle percentages are likely to
>  > > work too well; too close together, and too close to the 'busy' end.
>  > >
>  > > Try stopping powerd (/etc/rc.d/powerd stop) then running powerd
>  > > manually in verbose mode in its own console (powerd -v [flags]) to
>  > > watch how it behaves under varying loads.
>  > >
>  > > I suspect that you will find it 'flapping' between some frequencies
>  > > too often at constant load, as there's insufficient hysteresis between
>  > > the idle/running marks.  Compare it with using the default -i and -r
>  > > and if those aren't suitable, try rather smaller variations from the
>  > > defaults.
>  > >
>  > > If it lacks responsiveness, try decreasing the polling interval.
>  > >
>  > > cheers, Ian
>  >
>  > Thanks Ian,
>  >  -i and -r values was selected (3 month ago) by long playing with
>  > `powerd -v [flags]` in foreground, as you advice to me. The behavior of
>  > powerd is correct, and parameters was selected correctly to my
>  > environment. Also,
>  > debug.cpufreq.lowest was set to 500, and it starts to increase with 30%
>  > of CPU load, and decrease (to 500) with 35%. It's just good to me and it
>  > perfectly works.
>
> Fine if it works for you.  However your settings are 30% idle (70% busy)
> and 35% idle (65% busy), not percent loaded as you've expressed it here.
>
>  > I'm realy think it's all about my hdd (WD), its toooooo hot, even when
>  > no file activity, even when lid is closed, on battery or on AC, no
>  > matter. It's about 60-65C.
>
> I agree, 60C is too hot for a HDD.  I'd get nervous over ~50C myself.
> Have you tried cleaning out the dust from the air passages and fan/s?
>
>  > How to decrease the polling interval?
>
>      -p ival     Specifies a different polling interval (in milliseconds)
> for AC line state and system idle levels.  The default is 500 ms.
>
> With a shorter interval, say 250ms, you may find that a lower value of
> debug.cpufreq.lowest will be responsive enough, which might save power.
>
> cheers, Ian

Oh,thanks Ian!
I'll review my powerd settings.
About the dust-its clean, laptop is 3 month old, and i'm checking fans and air 
ways for dust regulary. Thanks for advice!



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