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Date:      Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:56:18 -0800
From:      "Dave Ng" <chump1@hushmail.com>
To:        "Warren Block" <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Subject:   Re: reviving old FreeBSD4 SCSI beast
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While I do not understand why my new (amd64) machine was unable to
boot, since no drives were rearranged post-install pre-boot, I was
able to get the old (i386) full recovered after adjusting fstab and
booting 9.2!
Thanks a ton.
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On January 28, 2014 at 7:44 AM, "Warren Block"  wrote:On Mon, 27 Jan
2014, Dave Ng wrote:

> On January 21, 2014 at 10:54 AM, "Alfred Perlstein"  wrote:
>>
>> Use a more modern machine to install to the IDE using an external
>> USB->IDE bridge, then relocate drive to old machine.
>
> This is the plan I started moving forward with. Looks mostly good, 
> except when I go to boot the prepared hard drive it gives me errors 
> mounting root fs, error 19! This happens with both the new amd64 I
am 
> running the recovery from, and the old i386 that I am trying to 
> revocer. Any idea what I am doing wrong when I install via the 
> usbide?

When installing, the disk device was seen as da0.  /etc/fstab was 
written with that as the base device:

# Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#
/dev/da0p2 / ufs rw 1 1
/dev/da0p3 none swap sw 0 0

Attached to IDE on the old system, it is not da0 any more.  If you 
installed 9.2 or 10.0, it will be ada0, and the loader will not see
da0, 
giving the error 19.

At the prompt, you should be able to enter
   ufs:/dev/ada0p2

That will start in single user mode (as I recall, it's early). 
Remount 
the / filesystem read/write:
   mount -u /

Then use vi or ee to fix fstab, changing the da0 entries to ada0. 
Finally, reboot.
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I have two networks at home, there are some wifi shenanigans going on
but for the point of this conversation I only mention the wired
ethernet. Two hub/switch setups, 192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x, they are
separate and they work great and life is good.
I am adding a single freebsd host with two NICs in it, one on each
network. No complications, right? Set the IP addresses manually and I
can participate in each network, using a single gateway off one of
them to reach the outside world. I think?
Next question, can I use this host to bridge the two networks?
Next next, assuming I can bridge, is there any way to do so
transparently for other hosts on either network? They are a mix of
OSX, windows, blah blah every OS.
Thanks!
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Lots of tools you can use -- to signify the end of option parsing
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On January 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM, rank1seeker@gmail.com wrote:> -n is
being interpreted as an option to ‘echo’ and being swallowed
before it gets to egrep.
> 
> - Mark
I've tried without echo

printf "-nn" | egrep '^-[[:alnum:]]+$'

This works!
Thanks for pointing out.
> Try without the grep:
> 
> $ echo '-m'
> -m
> $ echo '-n'
> $ echo '-o'
> -o
> $ man echo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:04 PM, rank1seeker@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Or am I crazy?
> > 
> > echo '-m' | egrep '^-[[:alnum:]]+$'
> > echo '-n' | egrep '^-[[:alnum:]]+$'
> > echo '-o' | egrep '^-[[:alnum:]]+$'
> > 
> > Guess what?
> > Only middle one, '-n' doesn't match it.
> > Is this an RE bug or I clearly ain't seeing obvious?!
> > 
> > echo '-n' | egrep '^-[0-9A-Za-z]+$'
> >    Doesn't work either
> > 
> > 9.2-RELEASE-p3  i386 
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Dave Ng wrote this message on Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:02 -0800:
> I have two networks at home, there are some wifi shenanigans going on
> but for the point of this conversation I only mention the wired
> ethernet. Two hub/switch setups, 192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x, they are
> separate and they work great and life is good.
> I am adding a single freebsd host with two NICs in it, one on each
> network. No complications, right? Set the IP addresses manually and I
> can participate in each network, using a single gateway off one of
> them to reach the outside world. I think?
> Next question, can I use this host to bridge the two networks?
> Next next, assuming I can bridge, is there any way to do so
> transparently for other hosts on either network? They are a mix of
> OSX, windows, blah blah every OS.

Basicly that means you need to setup up your box to forward packets:
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-routing.html#network-dedicated-router

Getting the routing working is a little bit more difficult but the
handbook has useful instructions:
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-routing.html

You can use a routing daemon to advertise routes, but not all devices
default to listening to routing advertisements and may need to be enabled...

FreeBSD includes routed(8) that provides basic functionality...

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