Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:15:26 +0200 From: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: What happen to mailing list archives? Message-ID: <20210608131526.36b494ad@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: <20210607203520.ez47pfjey6evr65w@aniel.nours.eu> References: <0E72BE08-BC5A-41F8-8048-C5E8ADE947AF@yahoo.com> <C833512F-09A0-4245-8DEE-8AE78E327627@yahoo.com> <20210607203520.ez47pfjey6evr65w@aniel.nours.eu>
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On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:20 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > > On 2021-Jun-6, at 13:25, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: > > =20 > > > Baptiste Daroussin <bapt_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote on > > > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 : > > > =20 > > >> What has happended: > > >> plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly > > >> with redirection and so on. We patched the new archiver to > > >> produce the same file names has pipermail > > >>=20 > > >> Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand > > >> edition in the past, we we decided to move to plan B which is > > >> what is happening now. > > >>=20 > > >> Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the > > >> migration date under the pipermail directory and have the new > > >> archives created in the archives directory. > > >>=20 > > >> All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The > > >> new archives receives in their index a new link to point people > > >> to the pipermails archive if looking for older archives. > > >>=20 > > >> this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails) > > >> during a window, of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow > > >> traffic aka the one which didn't received any email since the > > >> migration ended up with an empty "archives" directory (aka a > > >> 404), a file with explanation and redirection to pipermail has > > >> been installed there. > > >>=20 > > >> Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been > > >> transformed as readonly, this will be done in the next couple of > > >> days =20 > > >=20 > > > It is too bad that a reference to a "no examples yet" > > > month, such as, (at the time I write this): > > >=20 > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain/2021-June/date.h= tml > > >=20 > > > does not show at least (Date view specific example): > > >=20 > > > =E2=80=A2 Other periods:[ Previous, Date view ] [ List of Folders > > > ] > > > =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from > > > mailman's time ] > > >=20 > > > when there are prior months available in > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ or show at least just: > > >=20 > > > =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from > > > mailman's time ] > > >=20 > > > when no prior months are available there. > > > =20 > >=20 > > Looks like there are missing months. > >=20 > > Using freebsd-hackers as an example: > >=20 > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/index.html > > shows the oldest month being "May 2021". > >=20 > > But . . . > >=20 > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/ > > shows the most recent month being "September 2020". > >=20 > > So: 2020-Oct through 2021-Apr are completely missing. > >=20 > > Then, going for more detail for 2020-Sep and 2021-May . . . > >=20 > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-May/date.html > > shows "Starting Tue May 18 2021 - 21:07:44 UTC". > >=20 > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2020-September/date= .html > > shows "Ending: Tue Sep 15 14:12:20 UTC 2020". > >=20 > > So there are about 2 more half-months missing. > >=20 > > Some other lists have other date ranges, some similar, > > some not. =20 >=20 > This missing month are being populated right now Will historic links still work though (so that old references work and current google results are ok)? Just stumbled over this one: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jail/2017-March/003360.html Cheers Michael >=20 > Best regards, > Bapt --=20 Michael Gmelin
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