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Date:      Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:58:34 -0800
From:      Cyndi Jung <cmj@3Com.com>
To:        Lixia Zhang <lixia@CS.UCLA.EDU>, Brian Zill <bzill@microsoft.com>
Cc:        "'f.johan.beisser'" <jan@caustic.org>, Brad Huntting <huntting@hunkular.glarp.com>, snap-users@kame.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com, ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com, yjin@CS.UCLA.EDU
Subject:   Re: (ngtrans) Re: 6over4 for KAME (FreeBSD)
Message-ID:  <3.0.6.32.20001031095834.01960af0@mailhost.ewd.3com.com>
In-Reply-To: <200010281355.GAA20174@aurora.cs.ucla.edu>
References:  <CB7153628BD3724096258CBFD70AA891041DB8@red-msg-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>

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We did some interoperability testing between the UCLA code and
the Microsoft code, but we never picked up the code, and in fact
had toruble putting the UCLA software together until Yixin somehow 
put a kernel together that would work for our test.  It was a proof 
of concept, but it didn't go beyond that.  

The UCLA code was built on the Francis' stack from Inria, and I don't know
how different that is from the KAME stack. Francis had the 6over4 from UCLA
in his code when we went to Tokyo last year for the interim IPng
meeting and TAHI interoperability test - I helped him do a little
interoperability test there with Richard Draves from Microsoft, by
giving them a multi-hop IPv4 network with multicast service - it was no 
surprise to any of us that it worked, but it was nice to see.

So, Francis - you are the last person seen (by me) with a working 6over4 on
freeBSD!

Cyndi

At 06:55 AM 10/28/00 -0700, Lixia Zhang wrote:
>> 6to4 and 6over4, while having unfortunately similar names, are quite
>> different things.
>> 
>> 6to4 is a form of automatic IPv6 tunneling over IPv4.  The IPv4 address of
>> the "home" end of the tunnel is encoded into the IPv6 prefix.  See
>> draft-ietf-ngtrans-6to4-07.txt.
>> 
>> 6over4 is another IPv6 over "foo", where "foo" in this case is a
>> multicast-enabled IPv4 network, instead of say Ethernet or FDDI.  See RFC
>> 2529.
>> 
>> My recollection is that an implementation of 6over4 for some BSD flavor
>> exists, since I recall someone performing some interoperability testing
>> between our implementation and that implementation.  UCLA sounds
>> familiar.
>
>yes we did an implementation a few years back, I also recall the
>interoperability test.
>Someone from 3com picked up our code?
>Yixin, can you recall more details?
>
>Lixia
>
>
>
>> Aren't two interoperating implementations a requirement for Proposed
>> Standard? (RFC 2529 is at PS) I'm not aware of any others offhand, but it
>> wouldn't surprise me if there were some.
>> 
>> --Brian
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: f.johan.beisser [mailto:jan@caustic.org]
>> > Sent: Friday, 27 October, 2000 12:32
>> > To: Brad Huntting
>> > Cc: snap-users@kame.net; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG;
>> > ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com; ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com
>> > Subject: Re: 6over4 for KAME (FreeBSD)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > i'm not sure if this is what you mean, but:
>> > 
>> > http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/
>> > 
>> > also, i think that it is documented on http://www.kame.net.
>> > 
>> > of course, i oculd very well be talking out of my butt.
>> > 
>> > -- jan
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Brad Huntting wrote:
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > Has anyone started writing a 6over4 (rfc2529) driver for KAME and/or
>> > > FreeBSD?
>> > > 
>> > > I have a pointer to a UCLA project called "Virtual Ethernet" by
>> > > Quang Nguyen (no email address given), but it was written for the
>> > > Inria stack and FreeBSD2.  If there's nothing else available, I
>> > > may use this as a guide.
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+
>> >   http://caustic.org/~jan                      jan@caustic.org
>> >    "Never laugh at someone until you've walked a mile in their
>> >          shoes. Then laugh. For you are a mile away, and
>> >                       you have their shoes."
>> > 
>> > 
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