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Date:      Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:58:48 -0100
From:      Bart van Leeuwen <bart@ixori.demon.nl>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   RC2, some problems.
Message-ID:  <38B70928.D20A72F1@ixori.demon.nl>

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Hi all,

After getting me an iso image of RC2 and trying to install it I
encountered 2 small problems.
Both are easy to solve for the more expereinced user, but are annoying
nonetheless.

Both have to do with the packages collection on the cd.

1. Netscape Communicator 4.7 for FreeBSD.
   as most people prolly know, this program requires aout libs, and not
just the stuff
   from compatxx, but also the aout libs for X11.
   The two ways a user has to fix this are either grabbing a copy of the
aout libs somewhere
   or recompiling xfree with aout libs. Both are not too hard to do as
long as your system is
   connected to the internet, but if not then you are bound to have a
harder time getting this
   to work. Adding the XFree86 aout libs either as an option to the X
distribution or as a 
   seperate package would be a good solution.
   Also, quite a few people who tried RC2 here found it rather strange
to find a package on 
   the CD (netscape) that requires something to be able to run that is
not installed as a dependency
   and worse, that they cannot find back on the distribution at all.
   Its silly that netscape doesnt use the ELF libraries, but its also
very silly to include software
   on a distribution while knowing that it requires something thats not
included (or at least hard
   to find)

   I'm aware this is older then 4.0 (actually I think it dates back to
3.0) but imho its a problem
   because it makes the distribution look incomplete and badly tested (X
+ netscape is one of the
   first things a new user will try to install and run nowadays)

   One could also install the linux version, but heh, being able to run
a linux version but not the
   native version doesn't look very good either. (not to say its even
more silly)

2. linux_base
   When installing fbsd, a directory /usr/compat is created and it is
linked to /compat
   When trying to install the linux_base package, it fails with a
message that it can't cwd to /compat
   It seems to expect a directory while it finds a link. Removing the
link and creating a /compat dir
   makes that it installs perfectly well.

   Of course this is not hard to circumvent, but still, its annoying.

As I said, relatively small problems, but imho fixing them is quite a
good idea. If anyone thinks
I should fix them instead of complain... well... point me where to start
and I'll try ;-)

For the rest, keep up the good work, 4.0-current has been running here
for a long time now, and if the release is just
as stable as most of the current builts that I ran so far, then things
look very bright to me ;-)

regards, Bart van Leeuwen.


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