Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:12:34 +0000 From: Paul Richards <paul@freebsd-services.co.uk> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Cc: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c Message-ID: <3AB008F2.B7579B59@freebsd-services.co.uk> References: <20010313162107.C86088@dragon.nuxi.com> <200103140036.f2E0a8v15357@vic.sabbo.net> <20010313165058.A86712@dragon.nuxi.com>
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David O'Brien wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:36:07AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > It's better because: > > 1. People don't trust pre-compiled packages and like compiling by > > themselves. > > I already discrited the "macho" reason. > > > This also allows to use fancy optimisations like -O100 and > > -fvery-cool-but-expensive-optimisation. > > Perhaps you missed the "Unless one is setting tweakable knobs" in my > original reply. It's not just tweakable knobs in the sense of make.conf. A fair number of the ports now have dialog steps to configure them. Postgresql, postfix, mod_php4 are all like that and are typical of what I roll out on our servers as standard components but with our particular sets of modules compiled in. > > 2. In the case when small FreeBSD-specific bug found and fixed you will > > not have to re-download the whole thing. > > I don't follow you. For the most part, the only thing a port gets from > FreeBSD is shared libs. If you fixed a bug in the port itself, then yes, > you need the distfile. You can't download the most recent packages and run them on older versions of stable, say 4.0 because they expect newer library versions that don't exist. The libc bump and libfetch bump being two examples. > Nor are any of these cases ones Paul is mentioning.... Whether I'm the one mentioning them or not is hardly the criteria for determining their validity in the discussion. These are further examples of how common practice "out in the field" is being hampered by the limitations of how we're managing ports. Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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