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Date:      Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:08:20 +0000
From:      Chris Hodgins <chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere?
Message-ID:  <422252E4.1010308@cis.strath.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <1536617123.20050227233612@wanadoo.fr>
References:  <20050226130211.4162005f.albi@scii.nl> <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEIMFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> <1262756249.20050226141419@wanadoo.fr> <20050226142726.M5182@reiteration.net> <43908349.20050226154151@wanadoo.fr> <20050227045510.M67328@reiteration.net> <956914133.20050227100144@wanadoo.fr> <20050227210242.M8232@reiteration.net> <173258071.20050227231351@wanadoo.fr> <422249ED.1050702@cis.strath.ac.uk> <1536617123.20050227233612@wanadoo.fr>

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Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Chris Hodgins writes:
> 
> 
>>It should be trivial to update your kernel config and rebuild and
>>install the new kernel.  Remember to reboot when you are done.
> 
> 
> It's trivial in principle, but this is a production server.  The golden
> rule for production servers is never to change anything unless you have
> to.  I don't know that assisting with my testing justifies the risk of
> rebuilding the kernel on the production machine (not to mention trying
> to get NFS to work).
> 

If you have ssh running on your production machine you could build using 
ports on the other test machine and sftp the new package across.

> 
>>Not installing and deinstalling, but updating. I use cvsup and
>>portupgrade about once a week to keep my system up to date. If you are
>>running a production system and don't, then you are putting yourself
>>and your users at risk (especially on systems running lots of
>>applications). I am not running a production system btw this is just
>>for my home system.
> 
> 
> One doesn't do this on production systems.  Any kind of automatic or
> regular change or updating of the server is an invitation to
> catastrophe.  Changes to production servers must be explicitly and
> carefully carried out and exhaustively tested for regressions and
> compatibility.  I'd never have anything automatically updated on a
> production machine; I want to see and verify every change before it goes
> into production, and I need a Plan B to back out any change if something
> goes wrong.
> 

Well if you are doing all this you will carry out the updates to your 
test machine first and validate everything works fine.  Once you are 
happy build a package from it and add it to your production server.  I 
am not sure how you would verify a package as big as firefox or 
openoffice without doing this.

Chris



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