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Date:      Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:44:03 -0500
From:      Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@math.missouri.edu>
To:        Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Still getting 'calcru: runtime went backwards'
Message-ID:  <44AEC793.6000406@math.missouri.edu>
In-Reply-To: <44AEAB61.6000104@rogers.com>
References:  <20060629193346.GA2548@dragon.NUXI.org>	<44AD6756.4070008@rogers.com> <44ADC08B.8000408@rogers.com>	<200607071343.14205.jhb@freebsd.org> <44AEAB61.6000104@rogers.com>

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Mike Jakubik wrote:
> John Baldwin wrote:
> 
>> That is partly because when you run top it queries the resource usage 
>> of the various processes via fill_kinfo_proc().  When you don't run 
>> top, no one is asking for the resource usage numbers, so the kernel 
>> doesn't waste time calculating them.
>>
>>   
> 
> 
> Right, also running ps has the same effect. But why do these messages 
> occur?
> 
>> In both cases your errors are for a long-running kernel process that's 
>> been up since boot.  What's the uptime on your box?
>>
>>   
> 
> 
> Not sure what the uptime was, this box is not in production yet so i 
> shut it off regularly. I would guess under an hour.

I used to be able to get these predictably on FreeBSD 5, except then it 
could actually cause a panic.  If you run "top -s 0" (as root) you can 
get these errors arriving at a spectacular rate.





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