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Date:      Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:56:56 -0700
From:      Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
To:        "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 9.2 Boot Problem
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On 9 April 2014, at 13:49, "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> wrote:

>>=20
>> On 9 April 2014, at 11:29, "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On 4 April 2014, at 21:08, Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> I put this out on Questions, but got no responses. Hopefully =
someone here has some
>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> FreeBSD 9.2.  All of my systems are hanging during boot right =
after the screen that has
>>>>> the picture.  Its as if someone hit a space on the keyboard.  =
However, these systems
>>>>> have
>>>>> no keyboard.  If I plug one in, or use the serial console, and =
enter a return, the boot
>>>>> continues properly.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The boot menu is displayed along with Beastie.  However, the line =
that says Autoboot in
>>>>> n
>>>>> seconds=85 never appears.  It just stops there.  These are all new =
installs from CD
>>>>> systems.
>>>>> I just used freebsd-update to take a toy server from 9.1 to 9.2 =
and it doesn't exhibit
>>>>> this behavior.  It boots properly.  I have updated one of the =
production servers with
>>>>> the
>>>>> latest 9.2 changes and it still has the issue.  I first thought =
that some config file
>>>>> did
>>>>> not get updated properly on the CD.  I have dug around through the =
4th files and don't
>>>>> see
>>>>> anything obvious that would cause this.  I have now verified that =
all the 4th files in
>>>>> boot are identical (except for the version number.  They are =
slightly different).  I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> believe this is a BIOS setting issue as FreeBSD 7.2 didn't exhibit =
this behavior.  All 4
>>>>> systems are on totally different motherboards.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I tried setting loader_logo=3D"none" in /boot/config.rc and that =
eliminated the menu and
>>>>> Beastie.  I think the system completed booting, but the serial =
console was then dead.
>>>>> It
>>>>> did not respond or output anything.  I had to remove that and =
reboot to get the console
>>>>> back again.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I need to get this fixed as these are production servers that are =
essentially unmanned
>>>>> so
>>>>> its difficult to get them back up again.
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> No response here either.  Surely someone must know the loader.  I =
have been digging
>>>> through
>>>> the code, and can't find any differences between the systems that =
work and those that
>>>> don't.
>>>> Is there any way to debug this?  Is there a way to find out where =
the loader is sitting
>>>> waiting on input from the terminal.  That might give a clue as to =
why it didn't autoboot.
>>>>=20
>>> OK. This is the first I've seen of your post. I'm not going to =
profess
>>> being an expert. But I might suggest adding the following to
>>> loader.conf(5)
>>>=20
>>> verbose_loading=3D"YES"
>>> boot_verbose=3D"YES"
>>>=20
>>> This raises the "noise level". Maybe that will help to provide you =
with
>>> a bit more information, as to what, or if, your booting. DO have a =
look
>>> through /boot/defaults/loader.conf for more hints, as to what, and =
how
>>> you can control the boot process. As well as /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
>>> In fact, you can pre-decide what, and how, to boot. Even passing by =
the
>>> boot menu entirely.
>>=20
>> Thanks Chris.  I did that and here is what I get:
>>=20
>> Rebooting...
>> cpu_reset: Stopping other CPUs
>> /boot.config: -Dh
>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard  serial port
>> BIOS drive A: is disk0
>> BIOS drive C: is disk1
>> BIOS 640kB/2087360kB available memory
>>=20
>> FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
>> (doug@zool.lafn.org, Tue Apr  8 20:30:20 PDT 2014)
>> Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
>> Warning: unable to open file /boot/loader.conf.local
>> /boot/kernel/kernel text=3D0xdb3171 data=3D0xf3c04+0xbb770 =
syms=3D[0x4+0xeda80+0x4+0x1b8ebf]
>> zpool_cache...failed!
>> \
>> H[Esc]ape to loader prompt_   _____ _____
>> |  ____|             |  _ \ / ____|  __ \
>> | |___ _ __ ___  ___ | |_) | (___ | |  | |
>> |  ___| '__/ _ \/ _ \|  _ < \___ \| |  | |
>> | |   | | |  __/  __/| |_) |____) | |__| |
>> | |   | | |    |    ||     |      |      |
>> |_|   |_|  \___|\___||____/|_____/|_____/    ```                      =
  `
>>                                             s` `.....---.......--.``` =
  -/
>> +            Welcome to FreeBSD           + +o   .--`         /y:`    =
  +.
>> |                                         |  yo`:.            :o      =
`+-
>> |  1. Boot Multi User [Enter]             |   y/        3;46H /
>> |  2.--  /                                |
>> |                                         |
>> |  4. Reboot                              | `:                        =
  :`
>> |                                         | `:                        =
  :`
>> |  Options:                                  /                        =
  /
>> |  5. Configure Boot [O]ptions...            .-                       =
 -.
>> |                                             --                      =
-.
>> |                                              `:`                  =
`:`
>> |                                                .--             `--.
>> |                                                   .---.....----.
>> +-----------------------------------------+
>>=20
>>                                                FreeBSD `Nakatomi =
Socrates' 9.2
>>=20
>>=20
>> Now it waits for a return.  I have tried changing the logo, setting =
the autoboot timeout and
>> a couple others.  The only thing that did anything different was =
setting the logo to an
>> invalid value.  Basically the console was dead after that, but the =
system did boot.  I never
>> see the Auto Boot in n seconds message.  Its also interesting that =
the list of options above
>> appears incomplete.  On the working system, items 1 through 5 are all =
present.  I have now
>> checked all the cksum's for all the files in /boot and they are all =
the same.
>>=20
> Hmmm. Looks like you're going to make me do all your research, for =
you. ;)
> You /did/ read the contents of /boot/defaults/loader.conf. Yes? I'm =
guessing
> that you've also already read loader.4th(8), and the other related =
info.
> Now this is pure supposition; as it appears that you're looking for a =
serial
> console. I'd /speculate/ that you want to turn all that NASTY ANSI =
stuff OFF
> That's why your not seeing the complete menu -- hear that Devin!
> I'm going to post just this much for now, just to get you started. I =
know
> what else you need/are looking for. But need to find the /correct/ =
syntax --
> paraphrasing, just won't get it. :)\

Setting loader_color=3D"NO"   (from man page)  does give back the full =
menu.  Still waits for return after the version name.  I haven't found =
in the forth where it is reading the keyboard.  Yes, I have to use a =
serial console.  These machines are about 100 miles away.  Something is =
stopping the autoboot from even starting.






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