Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:06:33 -0400 From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com> To: 'Nate' <publisher@laptop.ompages.com> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)" <questions@FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: FreeLinux (Debian/GNU BSD) Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105A97@site2s1>
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How dificult is 'make deinstall' or 'pkg_delete' ? Also, I feel the need to point out that you are comparing a "package" system with FreeBSD "ports" system, and through out this whole discussion I haven't seen one person mention the FreeBSD packages system. Granted the only real difference is that packages are precompiled and ports are not, but it's something worth noting. All users have to do is select a package from a list, which is organized by categories, and is searchable, and then hit enter to install. How can it be easier? And all from a semi-graphical view in /stand/sysinstall. NOW, if you could only get a list of installed packages and have the ability to uninstall them from /stand/sysinstall, it's be perfect! :) (of course I personally use the ports anyway) I do have one "gripe" about the ports. It would be nice if that 'make deinstall' was smart enough to deinstall a previous version of a package. E.g. if you have samba-2.0.3 installed and the port is up to samba-2.0.4, it would be nice if the 'make deinstall' was smart enought to remove the 2.0.3 and not give an error that 2.0.4 isn't installed. I realize that this is easier said than done, and if I knew how to implement that myself it would have already been done. -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Nate [SMTP:publisher@laptop.ompages.com] > Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 8:08 PM > To: Roger Rabbit; questions@freebsd.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: FreeLinux (Debian/GNU BSD) > > On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 07:41:14PM -0400, Roger Rabbit wrote: > > > > Thats interesting that you found dselect easier to navigate than the > ports > > collection, I found it just the opposite, and I did d/l FreeBSD over the > > net as well. I migrated to both Debian and FreeBSD from SuSE/RootHat at > > about the same time, I love the idea of the ports, but that dselect > thingy > > takes some getting used to. :) > > People who left debian in the past were frustrated with dselect. > > There is a new app. It's aptly called 'apt'. Now the command > 'apt-get install <package>' will download precompiled applications > + dependencies from debian servers. Then 'dpkg -r <package>' > deletes it. It is quite easy. > > I use freebsd as well, and ports is not bad on installation. It is > upgrade and uninstall that is a bit trickier in freebsd. > > > For what its worth, deselect and the dpkg system is very cool once you > > understand them, I do like the Debian way much better than RH and SuSE > > rpms. > > > > > > my 2 cents, > > > > Roger > > > > > > ***************************************************************** > > * * > > * Roger Williams Enlightened with 0.15 * > > * * > > * If Bill Gates had a nickel for everytime that * > > * Windows crashed.... Oh wait, he does. * > > * * > > * spiffer@eclipse.net http://www.eclipse.net/~spiffer * > > * * > > * ICQ 973589 * > > ***************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Person, Roderick wrote: > > > > > Maybe this has to do with how installed. As I said over the internet. > The > > > download the port tree - when half of the stuff I'll never use just > was a > > > pain to me. Now I will admit I missed alot of stuff at the begining of > my > > > FreeBSD exploration. I don't know why it took me so long to find the > right > > > way but it did. I really like FreeBSD, even more that Linux. But, the > > > problems I have had with it so far keep me firmly grounded in Debian! > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: matt [SMTP:matt@MLINK.NET] > > > > Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 3:07 PM > > > > To: Person, Roderick > > > > Cc: 'Nate'; gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu; questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Subject: RE: FreeLinux (Debian/GNU BSD) > > > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Person, Roderick wrote: > > > > > > > > : This, IMHO, is a great idea!!! I have been playing with FreeBSD > for some > > > > : months now. And the kernel Kicks Ass!!! It just 'feels' better > too. But > > > > the > > > > : package installation and management is terrible. It took me at > least 3 > > > > weeks > > > > : to figure it out. People are always saying how hard it is to > install > > > > Debian > > > > : by dselect, FreeBSD is a nightmare. I hope this does go somewhere. > In > > > > fact I > > > > : think I go home and experiment with porting Debian stuff to > FreeBSD! > > > > > > > > Have you gone mad? FreeBSD's ports system is the best I have ever > seen, I > > > > have ran Linux(RedHat, Slack, Debian), OpenBSD, FreeBSD.. I stuck > with > > > > FreeBSD for a damn good reason. How difficult is it to "cd > /usr/ports ; > > > > make search key=<what you are looking for>" It don't get much easier > then > > > > that people.. I'm in love with the ports tree, and I'd hate to see > it > > > > trashed for some poor[*] precompiled packaging system. > > > > > > > > [big snip] > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > * In my opinion. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > matt@MLINK.NET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _ > NatePuri ("natedawg") o m p a g e s . c o m > Certified Law Student p e r c r v t i o f i > McGeorge School of Law e d i c a e a n m n > Sacramento, CA n i v e t r y m d > publisher@ompages.com a a s e y s t u s > n8fs0n@softcom.net t s d o h n > http://www.ompages.com e n i i > UIN: 43371366 e s t > y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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