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Date:      Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:41:07 -0600
From:      "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <chad@shire.net>
To:        Derek Ragona <derek@computinginnovations.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
Subject:   Re: SCSI vs. SATA (was Re: Upgrading our mail server)
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On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Derek Ragona wrote:

> SATA is still quite limited.  To go beyond those limits use SAS,  
> but SAS costs even more than SCSI and is brand new technology.

Get a 12 or 16  or 24 port Areca card and have a few hot spares and  
you will see SATA fly for less money than SCSI with higher storage  
and as high or higher reliability (RAID 6 plus hot spares)...

I used to be SCSI only but these new cards and drives offer a lot  
more for the money and you can make up for reliability by sheer mass  
and raid 6 and hot spares :-)

Chad

>
>         -Derek
>
>
> At 10:46 AM 9/14/2006, Bill Moran wrote:
>> In response to Frank Bonnet <f.bonnet@esiee.fr>:
>>
>> > Gerard Seibert wrote:
>> > > Frank Bonnet wrote:
>> > >
>> > > [...]
>> > >> I need SCSI Disks of course , budget is around 10K$
>> > >
>> > > Why the insistence on SCSI? Is there any reason that SATA or  
>> RAID with
>> > > SATA is not acceptable? Just curious.
>> >
>> >   Because I want it
>>
>> Has anyone every verified whether or not SATA has the problems  
>> that plagued
>> ATA?  Such as crappy quality and lying caches?
>>
>> Personally, I still demand SCSI on production servers because it  
>> still
>> seems as if:
>> a) The performance is still better
>> b) The reliability is still better
>>
>> But I haven't taken a comprehensive look at the SATA offerings.   
>> It also
>> seems as if SATA is more limiting.  Most SCSI cards can support 16
>> devices, does SATA have similar offerings?  I know it's not  
>> common, but
>> if you need that many spindles, you need them!
>>
>> --
>> Bill Moran
>> Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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