Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:59:00 +0000 From: "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com> To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>, fpawlak@execpc.com (Frank Pawlak) Cc: jcwells@u.washington.edu, drifter@stratos.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does it's true? Message-ID: <980629025900.ZM1474@darkstar.connect.com> In-Reply-To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@freebsd.org> "Re: Does it's true?" (Jun 28, 7:54pm) References: <199806290254.TAA21767@hub.freebsd.org>
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On Jun 28, 7:54pm, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Subject: Re: Does it's true? > Frank Pawlak wrote: > > On Jun 28, 5:05pm, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > Subject: Re: Does it's true? > > > Jason C. Wells wrote: > > > > I feel that a rag tag militia that has heart and the support of the > > > > population is incredibly difficult to defeat. I have heard commanders of > > > > the South East Asian theater make this statement. > > > > > > an insurgency supported by the local population against a > > > visibly distinct opposing force is formidable, indeed. > > > those characteristics do not and would not obtain in the USA. > > > > > > > I feel that an auto loading rifle is sufficient for the purpose of > > > > opposing tyranny. This is a personal opinion. > > > > > > well, i beg to differ. please speak to some veterans about > > > arty and its affects on infantry. (one hint: arty kills > > > more infantry than *anything* else, sometimes more than all > > > other weapons combined). > > > > Until modern, read post Vietnam, arty was indeed the biggest killer on the > > battle field, and absorbed the fewest casualties. Will not get into tactics > > but, infantry is vital except of carrier based airpower. > > agreed, infantry is vital, not a tough spot to be in. > > > > > > > > > alternatively talk to vietnam vets about the effects of > > > repeated airstrikes on the survivors. watch them whenever > > > they hear a plane close overhead. not a pretty sight. > > > > Saved my ass amny times. Not much of a problem here, except when somebody f'ed > > up and shit was dropped on the friendlies. The North Vietnam Air Force was a > > lot like their navy. No BFD. > > i was thinking about VC and NVA survivors, and their reactions > to aircraft. > > > > > > what would it have availed the chinese students to have > > > > > small arms in tianamen (sp) square. it would not have > > > > > forestalled action by the gov't. > > > > > > > > No it would not have forstalled the government. Here I will avoid > > > > discussion (I am a proponent) of civil disobedience as an instrument of > > > > power. Still, if the citizens of the nation of China were given the > > > > weapons that the only the civilians of the US owns, there would be a shift > > > > in power. > > > > > > yes, given sufficient number and external support, if they > > > could survive that long. > > > > No nation in their right mind would have intervened in that event. The whole > > world would have been a nuclear disaster. End of story. > > > > > > > > i am not necessarily disagreeing with you, but rather believe > > > that the odds are very long. people that play long odds in war > > > are called casualties. > > > > Generally true. However I could relate cases where the opposite was true. > > some do make it. there are living recipients of the congressional > medal of honor. you dont have to die to get one, but it sure > helps ;) > > ugh...i'm getting morose....time for me to quit this thread. > jmb > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Jonathan M. Bresler You appear to have some solid knowledge of the Vietnam war. Were you in the shit? Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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