Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:54:11 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <brodbd@uw.edu> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@funtoo.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) Message-ID: <CAHHaOuZyp8SV8TA-_4TgY8-kSuSB_oR6VtB5Uat5apNGh9ORJw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201745040.1949@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <4FDF6586.9060501@gentoo.org> <4FDFB166.2040709@FreeBSD.org> <4FDFB44D.9090308@gentoo.org> <4FE0ADCD.9010109@FreeBSD.org> <4FE0C123.8030301@gentoo.org> <CAGH67wRidMZrzjzTSdwud%2BZ5V--wOTN8CHXOWcOr%2BE5XHYo2rA@mail.gmail.com> <4FE0F773.1080403@gentoo.org> <CAGH67wQdb-c0Kf=60rkaJSH8Hd0OjwCi=rQQMzGq8xfp2q7b=Q@mail.gmail.com> <4FE100F9.2050009@funtoo.org> <20120620073920.GA5300@lonesome.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201618560.75278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CAPDOV49kkOdeV%2B6LVW5j5PO6VYrrNVqWZEksc_GzvWHjbufoAQ@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201722520.1856@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CAPDOV4_ufNGyheDAhPxfndJ7WtH_u=5z7mrLtW-5-a9BMbCswg@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201745040.1949@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > Some time ago i had to use linux (fortunately no longer needed). As i don= 't > use it normally i just took debian installer that i remembered it WAS > usable. > > After seeing the incredible complexity of /etc structure, not just rc > scripts, i deleted most of it and put startup sequence in single file. > > It was plain horror. You would weep if you saw Solaris's SMF, then. Everything is controlled by XML files, which you have to install and uninstall via the black-box 'svcadm' and 'svcs' commands. It's the most opaque init system I've ever seen. Lots of neat features, but I never feel confident I'm dealing with it right, especially when trying to implement a new service. rc.d-style init scripts aren't *that* bad, but some of the new parallel init systems are quite confusing. I recently spent most of a day trying to figure out why Ubuntu wouldn't launch a new rc script I'd installed before realizing that the parallel init system it uses simply silently ignores scripts that don't indicate their dependencies in a way it understands. --=20 David Brodbeck System Administrator,=A0Linguistics University of Washington
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