Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:51:28 +0100 From: krad <kraduk@gmail.com> To: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Cc: User Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ? Message-ID: <CALfReyc1TbFZo3O2e91nG_5kg77hgXV2%2BMSKiug=Vqm4MCDpcg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAAdA2WPdEmcQ-0m14-r0hMUXuYu3joTA6TeAGwtdXhSL%2BRknwg@mail.gmail.com> References: <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org> <20140718151255.b3e677d9.gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> <CALfReycHtSi5GXgFZihrTsgDG6wc-ZfkYmQu7AjQmOKdeXntrA@mail.gmail.com> <CAEeRwNV3bJrM5KrGObZtNvSY1mVMW9jz2M4t2m2SSq_vvWmZ5w@mail.gmail.com> <CALfReyfWJd7YOi_Y8Mq=Q-xndLueF7vU5xwc1w_YGyM1a9DQZA@mail.gmail.com> <53CA2D39.6000204@sasktel.net> <CALfReyfkZY1ZDNohP6npRVQfjBK2M6j59R8idUGazr1yJDX3Jg@mail.gmail.com> <20140720123916.GV96250@e-new.0x20.net> <CAJcQMWe9=3PvOhfT8N-78N04A0u3OvkjOd-HPCiBUcJFZZb0-g@mail.gmail.com> <20140720134133.1d30f725@kan> <20140720201251.3bdd2226.freebsd@edvax.de> <CAAdA2WPdEmcQ-0m14-r0hMUXuYu3joTA6TeAGwtdXhSL%2BRknwg@mail.gmail.com>
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Thats a terrible argument. What you are suggesting is there should never be any kind of open discussion of ideas which is fundamental to opensource software On 20 July 2014 19:35, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > On 20 July 2014 21:12, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:41:33 -0400, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > > > It was stated repeatedly by multiple people that FreeBSD's network > > > stack is way too different from OpenBSD, we support features > > > OpenBSD doesn't and vice versa, vimage is a good example, which throws > a > > > giant wrench into the plan of following OpenBSD 'as closely as > > > possible', even as the expense of throwing away all of the SMP work > > > done in pf to date. > > > > The difference between FreeBSD's and OpenBSD's network stack > > is also a problem that you can hardly compensate by maintaining > > two versions of pf, one provided with the system, one available > > via ports (as FreeBSD 10 did with unbound / bind), and you also > > would have to decide which version ("old" or "new") goes with > > the OS and which comes from ports. Of course following a "moving > > target" is much easier to do with ports (higher frequency of > > changes is possible) than with an OS component, and I should > > emphasize OS _core_ component, as pf is _very_ tightly integrated > > with kernel and OS mechanisms. > > > > Learning a new syntax is the smallest problem here, and BSD folks > > (as UNIX people in general) have a great reputation of being able > > to learn new things, evaluate them, and use them as needed, in > > comparison to those poor guys over in MICROS~1 land... ;-) > > > > > So to summarize (probably): > > Someone needs to decide whether or not they want FreeBSD or OpenBSD when it > comes to PF. > It's a simple decision to make:) > You draw a two-column table with FreeBSD and OpenBSD on each one, do your > analysis and decide where to pledge your allegiance. > > Debate CLOSED! > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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