Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 12:19:54 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Rostislav Krasny <rosti.bsd@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [14.1-BETA2] Cannot run any Desktop Environment Message-ID: <CANCZdfp5VzwJYRNVXtL7%2B=qmrCqZ6TroO2rrrok7xf7m-Gvjdw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CANt7McHMbV6%2B8aVNKNubXMGbtKOgTuQn-przAtp_KueHY8Y80g@mail.gmail.com> References: <CANt7McF_H0izwB11f5x7ZrCduQ78_1KHXvDxQgG=-SovSo6ATw@mail.gmail.com> <CANt7McEzi70p_AY0waWRD3zrPn4%2BgZqLFJfB_jan7acYBvys%2BQ@mail.gmail.com> <CANt7McEFg8ajyaNEe4QgwDs4E7ewomLeFLfedUdWGn2Ee0oW-w@mail.gmail.com> <CANt7McEGWTJo3r%2BL0PxkiOM2XDcjXsomw%2BaSy%2Bs=9_XQXti7CQ@mail.gmail.com> <CANCZdfqYEp0YtxtGsPrDBd0k0Nz5y_GiphOsDFzayDTjCtYpdw@mail.gmail.com> <CANt7McHMbV6%2B8aVNKNubXMGbtKOgTuQn-przAtp_KueHY8Y80g@mail.gmail.com>
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--0000000000001746f406186e0d9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:46=E2=80=AFAM Rostislav Krasny <rosti.bsd@gmail.c= om> wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 5:39=E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrot= e: > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024, 8:34=E2=80=AFAM Rostislav Krasny <rosti.bsd@gmail= .com> > wrote: > >> > >> If anybody is interested, there seems to be a serious issue in either > >> the intel video driver or in the kernel that interacts with that > >> driver. All this could be related to sound through the integrated > >> Intel HD 4600 video controller. Desktop Environments like Cinnamon and > >> LXQT use PulseAudion that probably triggers this issue constantly in > >> the driver and/or in the kernel. Other DEs like XFCE work better only > >> because they don't need PulseAudio and only when PulseAudio is not > >> installed. There is a scenario to trigger this issue in the XFCE > >> without PulseAudio installed, though. > >> > >> For more information, logs and reproduce scenarios please read my > >> messages in the following 278930 bug report: > >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D278930 > >> > >> Hope this will be fixed in the FreeBSD 14.1 final release. > > > > > > Is that with packages? What happens if you build drm-kmod from src? > > Yes I installed drm-kmod from packages by the 'pkg install drm-kmod' > command and then added "i915kms" into the "kld_list" inside > /etc/rc.conf > I can try to build drm-kmod from src but why you suspect the result > could be different? > Because while we're pretty good about binary compatibility between 14.0 and 14.1, the kernel side of that is weak. In the past, this has cause= d weird problems, not unlike what you're seeing. If you build from source and it works, then we'll know it's that issue, and not something else. Warner --0000000000001746f406186e0d9a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:46=E2=80=AF= AM Rostislav Krasny <<a href=3D"mailto:rosti.bsd@gmail.com">rosti.bsd@gm= ail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"= margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef= t:1ex">On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 5:39=E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh <<a href=3D"m= ailto:imp@bsdimp.com" target=3D"_blank">imp@bsdimp.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > On Tue, May 14, 2024, 8:34=E2=80=AFAM Rostislav Krasny <<a href=3D"= mailto:rosti.bsd@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rosti.bsd@gmail.com</a>> w= rote:<br> >><br> >> If anybody is interested, there seems to be a serious issue in eit= her<br> >> the intel video driver or in the kernel that interacts with that<b= r> >> driver. All this could be related to sound through the integrated<= br> >> Intel HD 4600 video controller. Desktop Environments like Cinnamon= and<br> >> LXQT use PulseAudion that probably triggers this issue constantly = in<br> >> the driver and/or in the kernel. Other DEs like XFCE work better o= nly<br> >> because they don't need PulseAudio and only when PulseAudio is= not<br> >> installed. There is a scenario to trigger this issue in the XFCE<b= r> >> without PulseAudio installed, though.<br> >><br> >> For more information, logs and reproduce scenarios please read my<= br> >> messages in the following 278930 bug report:<br> >> <a href=3D"https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D278= 930" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla= /show_bug.cgi?id=3D278930</a><br> >><br> >> Hope this will be fixed in the FreeBSD 14.1 final release.<br> ><br> ><br> > Is that with packages? What happens if you build drm-kmod from src?<br= > <br> Yes I installed drm-kmod from packages by the 'pkg install drm-kmod'= ;<br> command and then added "i915kms" into the "kld_list" in= side<br> /etc/rc.conf<br> I can try to build drm-kmod from src but why you suspect the result<br> could be different?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Because while we= 9;re pretty good about binary compatibility between</div><div>14.0 and 14.1= , the kernel side of that is weak. In the past, this has caused</div><div>w= eird problems, not unlike what you're seeing. If you build from source<= /div><div>and it works, then we'll know it's that issue, and not so= mething else.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner <br></div></div></div> --0000000000001746f406186e0d9a--
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