Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 18:44:34 +0200 From: Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> To: Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: old ports/packages Message-ID: <D0DCBE82-B30C-4819-84D1-A77F80C359A5@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <20160603172313.3b2353b0@raksha.tavi.co.uk> References: <03cc4012-026e-c007-09e1-ee45524f1b95@elischer.org> <B32DD056A6281C191CD35AA2@ogg.in.absolight.net> <c528a76d-5b94-01a3-f27e-7d174faf544e@freebsd.org> <1FAFDF989841D03604BB448B@atuin.in.mat.cc> <7b8d22c6-1fed-d517-9f89-693b88dfc358@freebsd.org> <20160504070341.GV740@mail0.byshenk.net> <3dfd6fea-da32-b922-65d1-f64b8e113112@toco-domains.de> <6e340f95-6d10-4991-0cd6-95d336e2f044@gjunka.com> <3e55c7d8-801c-a2b3-e92e-9945e896142b@toco-domains.de> <5809f808-8b16-93ed-5351-828a7d68eb2b@unsane.co.uk> <c71c19de-f712-6116-cdb3-10580054ab23@toco-domains.de> <574ED144.1050603@quip.cz> <9D785F08-AB0B-4324-B1B3-286D90AF9BF7@lastsummer.de> <20160603172313.3b2353b0@raksha.tavi.co.uk>
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> On 03 Jun 2016, at 6:23 PM, Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:17:57 +0200 > Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> wrote: > >> The initial release was 10.0, which was phased out after a >> year, leaving us no choice but to go 10.1 just two months >> after our initial release in order to receive official security >> updates. Worst case it takes a few months to adapt to the >> major transition so that's 12 months minus X months of internal >> engineering, depending on your staff expertise. In that case >> we started in 2014, took us 4 months, that's 6 months including >> the time 10.0 was officially available, so 6 months left for >> support, when you actually start adapting to 10 as soon as it >> comes out. For many that's a luxury not going to happen. One >> can blame anyone for starting late, but it's not going to solve >> the real world problem. >> >> 10.1 went really well. When 10.2 happened for us in January >> 2016, however, we've already went testing 3 months before and >> had a number of issues that were not being addressed upstream >> for a longer amount of time: > > Why not just use odd numbered releases? That's what I do. They have a > longer support cycle. Why release even-numbered at all then? To get better odds? :) On a more serious note, that was actually the bottom line of internal discussions: wait longer, do less. Not sure if this is the best thing for FreeBSD as a whole to let others sit these ones out. Cheers, Franco
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