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Date:      Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:32:29 -0500 
From:      "Hebel, Mike" <MikeHebel@duo-fast.com>
To:        "'Steve Friedrich'" <SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com>
Cc:        "'questions@freebsd.org'" <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: FW: Panasonic CD-ROM installation and no response from your t ech support...
Message-ID:  <D9D5890778CAD111BE5000805FAD2C8808A799@duofast8.duo-fast.com>

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Ok, let's start fresh.  The situation is this:

	I'm installing FreeBSD on a 386DX-33, with co-processor, 10Meg
RAM, 1.08gig hard drive, Panasonic CR-562-B 2X CD-ROM on a proprietary
Panasonic interface - (tried both an old Packard Bell [crystal] sound
card and an actual Panasonic 8bit interface card), an Oak 512K VGA card,
a Western Digital WD8003 SMC Ethernet card.
	Here's the sequence of steps I follow:
	1) Boot from the FreeBSD install disk made off of the
installation CD.
	2) Choose -c at the boot prompt to start up with a custom
configuration.
	3) Use the visual configuration program to set the I/O and IRQ
settings:
		a) matcd - 300H (Panasonic card), or 340H (Crystal)
		b) ed0 - WD8003 (300H, I5)
		c) sio0, sio1 - Std 3f8,2f8 - 4,3
		d) all other non-installed devices disabled.
	4) Make sure there are no CONF's listed in Visual before
starting probe.
	5) Allow probe to start and begin installation program.
	6) Choose Options menu from installation program and set extra
debugging to YES.
	7) Also set media to CD-ROM at that point.  (Error occurs
regardless of where in the 			installation  I set
this.)
	8) Start Novice installation.
	9) Partition the drive into a 75Meg root and the rest for
swap(50M), var(150M), usr(the rest).
	10) Choose All for the distribution selection including DES.
	11) Do not link to the ports collection.
	12) Start installation.

	During the installation, after the install program does newfs
and then copies the dev files, the program will try to copy BIN and the
rest of the distribution.  When this event occurs it tells me that it is
having trouble mounting the selected media.  On the debug screen, you'll
please pardon me for being inexact as I don't have the screen in front
of me, it has an error similar to "Improper/invalid mode for track x -
error (5)!".  If I cancel at this point the installation program thinks
it's installed properly and will attempt to go through all the final
installation steps but obviously gets no-where. 

	Incidentally this same exact error occurs when I try and install
a CD of 2.2.7 that I FTP'd and burnt.  I thought that it was because I
had burnt it in something that was not ISO format, however on re-burning
it in such I found that was not the case either.

	That's the long and short of it.  Anything anyone might be able
to tell me to help me with this would be appreciated.

	Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,

Mike Hebel


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Friedrich [mailto:SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 5:01 PM
To: Hebel, Mike
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: RE: FW: Panasonic CD-ROM installation and no response from your
t ech support...


On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:43:03 -0500, Hebel, Mike wrote:

>Walnut Creek is not a free organization
>and should support at least technical installations issues properly.

They really aren't qualified to support it beyond replacing defective
media, etc.

I don't see any technical info in these threads regarding the actual
problem.
I understand that it's a Panasonic with an AT interface.  Actually,
most people are vague on these things.  Is it connected to a
Soundblaster or to a real IDE interface.  The reason I ask, is because
in the early days on adding CD-ROM support, most companies used
proprietary interfaces that somewhat resemble ATA.  

Try posting your questions here, and we'll take a shot...
Keep in mind that some old hardware may not be supported and you
probably won't find anyone interested in spending their free time
adding support for an old, quirky, proprietary device.  They'd rather
spend their free time adding support for new, standard, way cool stuff.
 Regardless of what operating system you run, you have to live within
the bounds of supported hardware.  I have been using Winblows, OS/Blue
and Linux, and FreeBSD for quite some time. It's frustrating to find
hardware that will work under each and every one of them.

So let's begin anew...

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