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Date:      Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:15:33 -0000
From:      "Paul Robinson" <paul@iconoplex.co.uk>
To:        "Darren Henderson" <darren@nighttide.net>, "FreeBSD Chat" <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   jive (was RE: was this really necessary?)
Message-ID:  <IPEDKJGCDFHOPEFKLIDHMENCCCAA.paul@iconoplex.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.53.0302231441040.44163@olmec>

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> "jive" was as much a dialect as any other popular vernacular is for its
> time. Its certainly not based of a centuries old stereotype. Its more
> recent then hippie/flower child speak, beatnik, etc. And its no different
> then the vernacular of present day MTV, hip-hop, or club crowd (insert
> any subculture here that you like [subculture being a component of the
> whole culture not a diminutive]).

Actually, the history of jive is an interesting one. If I remember
correctly, the Legion of Doom created to make fun of another hacking group
that they hated called Masters of Deception. LoD was composed mostly of
white middle-class kids whose parents would buy them the latest and greatest
hardware they asked for. MoD had to make do with scrabbling around for bits
of kit in bins and were generally C64 freaks at the time. I'm sure that the
fact that they were all Afro-Carribean didn't come into.

In other words, jive owes it's existence to a desire of white middle-class
pricks to make fun of black working-class kids.


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