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Date:      Thu, 11 Jan 1996 19:40:46 +0100 (MET)
From:      didier@omnix.fr.org
To:        Stefan Esser <se@zpr.uni-koeln.de>
Cc:        iain@nwpeople.demon.co.uk, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: anyone there using AMD's 133MHz chips?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.960111193318.17930A-100000@zapata.omnix.fr.org>
In-Reply-To: <199601111239.AA27510@Sysiphos>

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On Thu, 11 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote:

> On Jan 11, 11:32, Iain Baird wrote:
> } Subject: Re: anyone there using AMD's 133MHz chips?
> } Stefan Esser writes:
> } > On Jan 10, 18:31, Dmitry Kohmanyuk wrote:
> } > } Subject: anyone there using AMD's 133MHz chips?
> } > } are there any problems/opinions on them?  It is worth to choose them
> } > } over 120MHz ones?  (i.e., time make world on both)
> } > 
> } > According to some reports I read, the 5x86 is not
> } > significantly faster than the 486DX4/120, but it
> } > has the advantage to work well on PCI only mother
> } > boards, which prefer a 33MHz bus clock (and don't
> } > like a 40MHz clock at all :-)
> } 
> } I'm running a DX4-120 on a GA-486AMS PCI-only motherboard.
> } This can clock PCI at CPU/2.  By default, with CPU at 40MHz,
> } PCI runs at 20MHz.
> } 
> } However: I have tried setting CPU:PCI to 1:1, so PCI is clocked
> } at 40MHz, and everything seems to work fine.  So far at least.
> } I have an AHA-2940 and a Diamond Stealth 64 (S3 968).  I haven't
> } done any benchmarking to compare the performance.
> } 
> } Any comments on the wisdom of this?
> 
> Well, this has got nothing at all to do with wisdom.
> But a lot with luck ;-) 
> 
> PCI chip sets are designed for a 33MHz upper limit, 
> and I'd be afraid of overheating the expensive S3 
> or AIC chips, and the mainboard PCI chip set as well 
> (eek, all soldered in :)
> 
> I'd rather spend a few $ on the 133MHz variant, even 
> if it is no faster than the DX4/120.
> 
> But that is a matter of personal taste ...
> 
> Regards, STefan
> 
> -- 
>  Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen		Tel:	+49 221 4706021
>  Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln	FAX:	+49 221 4705160
>  ==============================================================================
>  http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se			  <se@ZPR.Uni-Koeln.DE>
> 

I have been using a 486DX4-120 on my AL3 mother board (chipset acer labs)
without any problems for nearly 3 months. When I replaced the 486DX4-100 by 
a 486DX4-120 
the speed was dramaticly improved (37%) . I've never had any problems 
with the PCI boards. (AHA2940 and Miro Crystal 20SV)



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